Peyton Manning or Tom Brady?

[bd007h]

Who is the better quarterback? There's a debate in an NFL thread on a non-football forum I'm on.

[inSTAALed]

It depends.

Peyton Manning is the better QB statistically (maybe the best ever), but he is also surrounded by talent and gets to basically be the offensive coordinator.

Tom Brady is the better QB when it counts. He is clutch. When the playoffs roll around, there is nobody else I would want leading my team.

Purely talentwise though, you gotta go with Peyton.

[usmhuskies]

Originally Posted by inSTAALed

It depends.

Peyton Manning is the better QB statistically (maybe the best ever), but he is also surrounded by talent and gets to basically be the offensive coordinator.

Tom Brady is the better QB when it counts. He is clutch. When the playoffs roll around, there is nobody else I would want leading my team.

Purely talentwise though, you gotta go with Peyton.

Well, if Peyton has a better supporting cast why has he won a super bowl...Brady has 3 of those and he is by far the better QB...I hate this debate but Brady is 10-1 in the playoffs, what is peyton record???

[inSTAALed]

Originally Posted by usmhuskies

Well, if Peyton has a better supporting cast why has he won a super bowl...Brady has 3 of those and he is by far the better QB...I hate this debate but Brady is 10-1 in the playoffs, what is peyton record???

Thats my point.

Peyton is the better QB skillwise but Brady is better where it matters.

The question isn't who would you rather have it was who is the better QB.

[Daddy Duck]

Originally Posted by usmhuskies

Well, if Peyton has a better supporting cast why has he won a super bowl...Brady has 3 of those and he is by far the better QB...I hate this debate but Brady is 10-1 in the playoffs, what is peyton record???

Ughhh, DEFENSE, gimme the patriot's D during their championship year's, flip Manning and Brady and i'll give you 5 championship's.

[Grogan14]

This debate is simply the Dan Marino vs Joe Montana, version 2000's. I took Montana then and I'll take Brady today.

Originally Posted by daddyduck

Ughhh, DEFENSE, gimme the patriot's D during their championship year's, flip Manning and Brady and i'll give you 5 championship's.

This is a great misconception, look at the Patriots defense in 2004 (Jan '05). No Ty Law, No Richard Seymour, No Tyronne Poole (a starting CB that year) and Troy Brown and Randall Gay (undrafted rookie FA)and very young Asanti Samual and Eugene Wilson playing DB when the Pats played the Colts. If the defense was that dominant, why did Pittsburgh score 27 points with a rookie QB and then Philly scored 21 points in the Super Bowl.

In the 2005 pro-bowl, Indy had 3 defense players (Freeny, June, & Sanders) and NE had 1 (Seymour).

In both playoff games against NE, the Colts moved the football but several times they had a chance to get into the game or take control of the game, Manning threw a pick or made a bad decision. The one Harrison picked off in the end zone early in the game changed the game at that point.

Manning needs to prove he can make the clutch play or engineer the key drive against a legit defense in January before he is considered amongst the greatest NFL QB's in history. HOF'r - no doubt first ballot; but IMO he's not in the conversation of the "greatest" one ever until he wins when it matters.

[triumph]

If I wanted to win one football game, I would go with Peyton Manning.

If I wanted a guy to lead my team through the playoffs and to the Super Bowl it would be Tom Brady.

[usmhuskies]

Originally Posted by triumph

If I wanted to win one football game, I would go with Peyton Manning.

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One regular season game...I would take Brady if it was just one game in the playoffs...

[usmhuskies]

Originally Posted by daddyduck

Ughhh, DEFENSE, gimme the patriot's D during their championship year's, flip Manning and Brady and i'll give you 5 championship's.

Well give Brady the weapons that Manning had during those years(harrison, Wayne, EJ, Stockley, and so on) and I guarentee that Brady would have five title, no matter what defense was on the other side...

[Daddy Duck]

Originally Posted by usmhuskies

Well give Brady the weapons that Manning had during those years(harrison, Wayne, EJ, Stockley, and so on) and I guarentee that Brady would have five title, no matter what defense was on the other side...

Good point...

[SDK_06_CHAMP]

better QB: Manning
better winner: Brady
better skills: Manning
better overall team last 5 years: brady

last but not least........

better luck: brady (tuck rule anyone?)

[Daddy Duck]

Originally Posted by SDK_06_CHAMP

better QB: Manning
better winner: Brady
better skills: Manning
better overall team last 5 years: brady

last but not least........

better luck: brady (tuck rule anyone?)

That one still hurt's, ouch!

[SDK_06_CHAMP]

sorry but that was one of the dumbest things i have ever seen. that was a fumble plain and simple!!!

[Jomichka]

I gotta go with Manning, maybe not the clutch guy now, but he can grow into that IMO.

[Daddy Duck]

Originally Posted by SDK_06_CHAMP

sorry but that was one of the dumbest things i have ever seen. that was a fumble plain and simple!!!

Yes it was. Oh well my doctor say's I'll get over it eventually.