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Delhomme proved he still is interception prone and do I need to say anything about David Carr? This team is extremely overrated and needs to start addressing the QB position. Delhomme actually threw a INT that was returned for a TD in a preseason game. Pathetic

49erFaithful

I think David Carr if he gets the chance will surprise alot of people now that he actually has a chance to stand upright he has the chance to actually make better throws. So if Carr get the start at QB in Carolina (that is if Delhomme continues to struggle) i think they can still make the playoffs barring any other major injuries during the season. Carr is NOT as bad as everyone thinks he is.

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hit_'em88

The jury is in on Delhomme. He sucks. But I think the jury needs to declare a mistrial on David Carr. His line in Houston was terrible and he only one had weapon (Andre Johnson)
And Delhomme threw a pick to Lito Sheppard who is becoming one of the better corners in the league. Thats not pathetic.

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THROWING A INT in a preseason game as a veteran QB is PATHETIC!!!!!!. I don't care who the CB is

Transplanted Caper

5 wins? Try again. No one cares about pre-season, especially the veterans. IMO, the Panthers are quite underrated going into the season as everyone has fallen in love with the Saints. If they stay healthy Carolina takes the division.

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JCD

If throwing 1 interception is pathetic, then what does throwing 2 in a single game make you?

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And here I thought Tom Brady was arguably the best QB in the game today...

Or...

Preseason means jack.

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The fact that delhomme ended the year on a sh*TTy note, i would think panther fans would want to see how he is looking right before the start of a new season and he is showing that he still can't perform at a high level and must be replaced if the panthers are interested in making the playoffs

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Don't bring Tom Brady into a Jake Delhomme conversation because that man has 3 rings. And throwing 2 INT's makes you not NFL material

JCD

Your contention was that throwing a pre-season INT makes you a pathetic QB. Your new contention is that throwing 2 pre-season INTs means you are not NFL material.

Tom Brady threw 2 pre-season INTs. According to the logic you laid out, Tom Brady is not NFL material.

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That rule only applies when Delhomme is the QB. In which case, your premise in entirely invalid because it is a reflection of your bias and not anything objective.

In truth, the Panthers do have QB issues. Delhomme is a decent, but not great, QB who seems to be on the downswing. That has nothing to do with a meaningless INT thrown in the pre-season, but on his regular season performances.

However, Panthers do have a viable Plan B in Carr. Carr never lived up to expectations in Houston, but will have no excuses in Carolina. The Panthers have a decent line (would be very good if Wharton emerged as a quality LT), a respectable running game and a great WR to work with. If Carr can't be effective in Carolina, he simply cannot be effective.

Panthers won 8 games last year with Wienke starting 3 games. Now they have a QB who will put pressure on Delhomme to start and they will win 3 fewer games? That doesn't make any sense.

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But you keep bringing Tom Brady into the conversation and he has 3 rings so he doesn't count. Not only that, he would have had 4 rings if his defense didn't roll over in the AFC Championship game. I'm talking about the inconsistency of Jake-"INterception" Delhomme who is the main reason the Panthers were not in the playoffs last year and is showing that he is no different and one of the worst QB's in the League

Who Dat?

Carolina will win plenty more than 5 games. If you're selling, I'll take the over.

JCD

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No real pattern to his play, actually. Some of his best games were preceded and followed by some of his worst.

That he missed 3 games is notable. Wienke is NFL bubble material. Had Delomme played, they could have been 2-1 or even 3-0 in those contests (all were definately winnable games). On top of that, the loss to the Vikings was a total fluke, with the appropriately named Chris Gamble literally giving the game away.

Panthers were damn near a play-off team last year despite Delhomme having an injured and inconsistent season. Now, Delhomme is not an elite QB by any means, but he is adequate. If he career downturn continues, then the Panthers now have a QB who can step in and start over him. If it comes to that.

Sorry, but the odds of the Panthers collapsing to only 5 wins seems fairly improbable.

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Delhomme is not that much different than Eli Manning, both are intimidated by defensive pressure, you can force both to throw interceptions, and both gets CONFUSED late in the game

JCD

Sorry, doesn't work that way. I keep bringing Brady in because he fits your criteria, a QB that tossed 1 or more pre-season INTs.

With a couple minutes of research, I am absolutely certain I could find dozens of other QBs most consider to be good to elite that have also tossed a pre-season INT.

All you are saying is:
throw a preseason INT + named Jake Delhomme = bad QB

Might as well just say you don't like Delhomme instead of trying to pull BS like a pre-season INT into this.

And if you think Delhomme is one of the worst QBs in the league, you really need to take a better look around the league.

As bad as Delhomme was last year, he was FAR from the league's worst. You do realize that Frye, Walter, Brooks, Johnson, Jackson, Weinke, Harrington, Anderson, Collins, Bledsoe and Gradkowski all started games last year, right?

As for the Panthers not making the Play-offs because of Delhomme. Perhaps. If he wasn't hurt for 3 games, they very well could have made it. With just one more win, they would have been a Wild Card team. Had Jake not missed 3 games, and the Panthers not given the Vikes game away, they could have won the division.

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I'm still getting visions of that monday night game in philly when Delhomme threw that horrible pass to keyshawn johnson in the endzone that led to a interception. He has the tendency to always FORCE things and instead of just taking his time and seeing what else is out there