PhillyLion82

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PhillyLion82

If Bucs do get him it will give Steve Smith a challange in the South. Jets are the other team and AFC East already has TO and Randy Moss.

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Canadian Speed

I've head that this was more of a courtesy call... There wasn't much with reguards to getting the player, as there was with checking to see what his status is...

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Bears9

I don't why they aren't looking at him, can you name a Bucs reciever off the top of your head, I can't. Whoever their QB is, Leftwhich, Freeman, whoever they need targets. They should go out and get Plax, my only fear is Plax in sourthern Florida, questionable idea at best

Canadian Speed

They need receivers for sure... They had a WR coprs made up of nobodies, and that's for sure, but at this time they have a ton of guys on the roster that when all put together can get it done acceptably. There is no question that a guy like Plex xould bring in some talent, but he also brings in some problems as well, and they've already gotten K2 who's anything but humble and a leader.

This far, they have, in order that I think they will contribute:

Antonio Bryant, who had a return to glory last year and could have been the come back player of the year... I just hope he continues.

Maurice Stovall, he comes into his fourth year this year, the magic year in most players careers for breakouts. He didn't do very much last year, or any other for that matter, but I'm hoping that he steps up and takes a more productive roll in the offence. He's tall and he's got decent hands... But a question none the less.

Michael Clayton, his numbers weren't godly by any means, but I think that he can get it done if given the chance in a #3 spot. He enters his sixth year and has show to be an injury risk, but if he splits time, he can be effective.

Then we have Dexter Jackson, who although short for Tampa's prototype, is a super fast guy. He might get the nod to some capacity and I hope he shows promise.

There are also a bunch of questionable players in the backdrop as well that, who knows, could provide some help as well... But with the three names above, plus K2 in there (whom I'm leary about), and the possibility of Clifton Smith being used in 3rds, returns and I suspect even in a kind of multi-role situations, we should be "Okay"... Like when you have a hang over and someone asks "How you doing?"... "I'm okay"...

But, if there was anyone that should have been picked up this offseason by the Buccs, #1 should have been Tory holt, #2 should still be Marvin Harrison, if for nothing more then a player mentor... Given that the Bucs like to run a quick pass offence, they need players that can run clean routes, and I think Marvin could still do that... He may lack the vertical speed he once did, but I'd put his footwork against anyone out there... And you know his hands are godly.

P.S. Now that Brooks is gone, we soooo should have poached Briggs when we had the chance!!!

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Bears9

At the time I wouldn't have minded you taking Briggs, Jamar Williams was supposed to be the next big thing lol, he's since been pasted up by Nick Roach lol.

I do think Plax's off field stuff is a problem but I would give him a chance before I would Vick or Pacman. Plaxico did break a law and he did have a gun at nightclub and the thought of him in south Florida isn't that great, but he really only hurt himself and the Giants with his stupidness. He didn't shoot anyone, he didn't kill anything, he didn't paralzye anyone, he just gave himself a flesh wound.

In just another side note I really think the Bucs totally screwed their draft. They had to too many needs, like recievers and getting younger on the front seven to get rid of picks to trade up for someone who was a real reach at 17. It was really poor desicon making in my mind by the Bucs front office. They already had Leftwhich, they could've simply waited until next year with McCoy, Bradford, and Tebow instead of reaching for Freeman and losing much needed draft picks. It wasn't very smart

Canadian Speed

I don't know about the draft decisions thing though. But QB was a need that they needed to address, so I can't fault them that much for taking him and he wouldn't have been there more then two or three picks more. The lack of a 2nd meant that they had to decide where they wanted to go for the most. Since I don't think that anyone is expecting them to make playoffs this year, I think that taking a QB this year to sit, wasn't that bad of an idea. At least not as bad as some would make it out to be (You're not alone BTW).

As for Freeman, I know this will sound biased, but watching him play in Kansas, throwing to Snipes and the rest of the so so receivers in Kansas. He made that team look good. And he kind of reminded me of a young McNabb. Now that's a lot of praise to heap onto a young guy, even if you aren't an Eagles fan, McNabb has been doing it for year now... And he didn't start for three years either, so I'm keeping the faith that Freeman may blossom into that king of a player, decent mobility, big body (the dude's huge), big arm. That being said, I also not a fan of passing on draft picks based on who MAY be there next year, or who may not. Bradford might get caught selling crack, Tebow might blow out his knees, and McCoy might get into a plane crash and die... And that's not even counting if they'd be around at the time that the Buccs get a pick... I realise that these sound like long shots, and reaches to justify the pick, but things happen and if you bank on things to go a certain way, that usually when they don't, and you end up having to pick up a guy like Leftwich (whom I also have an interest in, as I think he can still produce, he still has a lightning fast release on the ball, but his problem has always been, and always will be durability and mobility).

Again, they didn't have a 2nd due to picking up K2, a move which I'm not sold on right now due to past problems in Cleavland, but maybe Cleavland was also the problem, or part of the problem. He's getting the money now, so there's really nothing left for him to complain about at this time. He's shown up for activites now and is apparently falling into place. So time will tell.

They then spent their next two picks on the D line with Roy Miller and Kyle Moore. Neither of them are likely to FIX the entire problems, but they have addressed the D line issue somewhat.

As for linbackers as of right now, they have a lot of younger talent that could fill in quite nicely. They're developing. That being said, it would have been nice to retain Cato for this season, but I think that, again, with no intentions of going to the playoffs this year, they must have figured that dumping cap, taking the cap hit this year, and free things up for next offseason is/was worth the short commings left behind in this offseason. I'll make a bold statement, but NEXT year, we'll see the Buccs in the playoffs, and with the amount of young talent on the team at this time, we may see them there for quite a while... But not this year.

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Bears9

Weren't peole calling Taveris Jackson a young McNabb too, lol.

To be Freeman is Bryon Leftwhich at best and since they already have Byron Leftwhich I don't really see the point in drafting him. He really was an early second round value in my mind but teams like the Broncos, Bucs, and Jets needed QBs in the mid first area and were afiard that the Lions would pass on Stafford and sweep on Freeman if they didn't take him or something like that. It's a big reach

Canadian Speed

A healthy Byron is a great QB... When he started for the Jags he was a very decent QB... I'd take a healthy 20 year old Byron over 80% of the QBs in the league today.

That being said, Freeman is HUGE... He's like 6'6 and 250lbs... He's not expected to run all that much, though he does have decent mobility. Seeing as how the Buccs didn't have a 2nd, they took who they did, where they could. Had the pic been Pat White at 17, I'd day that was reaching, but many people had Freeman comming off the board in the 1st... Had either the Jets or Lions taken Freeman in place of either of the guys they did, that would have been reaching as well... But most everyone had Freeman as a solid 3rd best QB, who'd be gone in the 1st.

The other holes they have could have been filled, maybe at that spot, but with the lack of serious talent in the draft, I think they just filled the needs as needed vs. drafting the best players at that time... There may have been better players at that time, BUT, if they aren't priority, what's the advantage of drafting them... Again, being biased a bit, I still have faith in the Freeman choice given the lack of a 2nd with which to risk getting him. The front four needed help, but wasn't in critical condition. They've made them deeper, which is good...

The secondary is still one of the better ones in the NFL in my opinion. They could have maybe picked up Harvin at that time, but only time will tell how he, or any of the WRs this year work out (Crabtree included). I've always said, here (on the board) and else where, that first round WRs are something you pick once everything else is in order on your franchise. I think they kind of wanted to pick up Holt, but missed that chance. In desperation they may still pick up Marvin in the final moments off the preseason if things in the receiving corps looks bleak... If Freeman were starting then WR would have been a heavier concern, as would have been another O-Lineman.

Whom would you have chosen at 17th? Again, keep in mind that you have four main areas to address this season... 1.QB, 2.DL, 3.RB, 4.OL. Forgetting who may be comming up next season from the NCAA. On paper, I don't think that any of the guys that came after Freeman are expected to have huge impacts on their teams... We may be looking at someone like Forte, that comes in and blows up twenty times more then anyone ever thought he would, but that happens and nobody knows when that's going to happen...

I'm not saying that the drafting was brilliant by any means. I'd give it a 75-85, based on needs and available talent to fill said needs... For their offseason, I'd give that a 70 for the impact on this season, and a 90+ for next season with the cap that they'll have next season, with which to fill some of the holes.

Some of the key UFAs that might come up if not signed a new by their teams:

KFFL - 2010 NFL Free Agents

There are a lot of big names in there, young names which can still contribute if given the chance. This draft and offseason wasn't about this season, it was for next...

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cold cat

Will plax even be able to play this year?