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Old 07-15-2008, 10:55 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Romo=OVER RATED.
maybe most undeserving of hype of all QBs in NFL
I agree with you on that one... He has had the talent around him, and thus far, hasn't delivered. He's got Jason and Terrel, not to mention two backs that are decent at making the catch and lets not forget Glenn, who in my opinion is one of the most, if not THE most under rated #2 WR in the game today. It's amazing at how good a solid TE can make a QB look when he's always got a short option open to him...

That being said, the real question in all of this is can Eli maintain. Now that he's seen the big game, one might think that having played in the biggest game, normal games won't rattle him. On the other hand, having to live up to his new success may just in fact add to his nerves...

McNabb has been and continues to be a productive QB in the league and he's consistantly way more active then the others in this class. that being said his physicality has really hurt him as of late... If given the time to heal, we could get a surprise from him this season.

Anderson is still to young to be judged in this matter, as such, I'd place him last... Only due to the fact that we don't know anything about him yet... Really... I mean really...

I'd go Eli, but only because of the rings. McNabb because of the #s. Then Romo and lastly Anderson. Honnestly though, if Anderson has another good showing this year, I'd seriously think about moving him over Romo.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Romo=OVER RATED.
maybe most undeserving of hype of all QBs in NFL
I agree there is a reason he wasn't drafted. He is a poor man's version of Kurt Warner who at least won a SB with the Rams.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:42 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Before we go nuts over Eli Manning, a little reality check, please. These are the stats for Eli:

TD's - 11th in the league
Total Yards - 12th in the league
Interceptions - Tied for 1st with 20
QB Rating - 25th in the league
Completion Pct% - 29th in the league


Eli has a ring but so does Lawrence Tynes, and he's not heading to the Hall of Fame, either. The Giants won in the postseason because of a stifling defense and Eli somehow managed to not do what he did so often in the regular season, namely turn the ball over. (And David Tyree had something to do with it as well). Good for him, it's a great feel-good story, but let's not go nuts. Is he better than McNabb? No. Is he better than Romo? No. And if the Redskings get Favre he'll be the fourth best QB in this division.

Maybe in time he will be a solid QB, but let's not crown him ready yet based on the sum total of three games....some perspective, people!


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Old 07-17-2008, 01:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Before we go nuts over Eli Manning, a little reality check, please. These are the stats for Eli:

TD's - 11th in the league
Total Yards - 12th in the league
Interceptions - Tied for 1st with 20
QB Rating - 25th in the league
Completion Pct% - 29th in the league

Eli has a ring but so does Lawrence Tynes, and he's not heading to the Hall of Fame, either. The Giants won in the postseason because of a stifling defense and Eli somehow managed to not do what he did so often in the regular season, namely turn the ball over. (And David Tyree had something to do with it as well). Good for him, it's a great feel-good story, but let's not go nuts. Is he better than McNabb? No. Is he better than Romo? No. And if the Redskings get Favre he'll be the fourth best QB in this division.

Maybe in time he will be a solid QB, but let's not crown him ready yet based on the sum total of three games....some perspective, people!

i couldnt agree with you more. trent dilfer won a superbowl just because you win a superbowl doesnt mean your a great qb. for the most part eli sucked last year he definitly did to better in the playoffs. in my opinion on eli this year will tell everything about him he will either build on last years sb win and become an elite qb or he will go back to being sheli when he looks like a girl straight from a division 2 college.
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Before we go nuts over Eli Manning, a little reality check, please. These are the stats for Eli:

TD's - 11th in the league
Total Yards - 12th in the league
Interceptions - Tied for 1st with 20
QB Rating - 25th in the league
Completion Pct% - 29th in the league

Eli has a ring but so does Lawrence Tynes, and he's not heading to the Hall of Fame, either. The Giants won in the postseason because of a stifling defense and Eli somehow managed to not do what he did so often in the regular season, namely turn the ball over. (And David Tyree had something to do with it as well). Good for him, it's a great feel-good story, but let's not go nuts. Is he better than McNabb? No. Is he better than Romo? No. And if the Redskings get Favre he'll be the fourth best QB in this division.

Maybe in time he will be a solid QB, but let's not crown him ready yet based on the sum total of three games....some perspective, people!

Well I would rather have a guy who is good in the playoff then a master in the art of choking or an injury prone QB.
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I'm not taking those comments as though they were directed at me, I stated that this was only due to the ring... That being said, I went on to say this year was going to determin what we should think of Eli... THAT being said, no one can deny that he WAS dynomite in the SB, and on 3rd down of all places.

I'd presonally only consider rotating McNabb and Eli places, the other two I'd leave where they are... Until prooven otherwise.

Now that Parcells is gone from Dallas, we'll see what happens to Romo this year... Maybe he'll be back at bagging groceries after this season, borken and divored from his gold digging flousy, only to be found in a ditch several months later with a mind full of chemicals and a bad aliby for why he robbed a corner store and shot the poor little ugly girl working behind the counter after she tried to take his b***h @ss down with a baseball bat... Then again, I could be wrong. We'll just have to wait and see.
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That being said, the real question in all of this is can Eli maintain. Now that he's seen the big game, one might think that having played in the biggest game, normal games won't rattle him. On the other hand, having to live up to his new success may just in fact add to his nerves...
I'm a Giant fan and wholeheartedly agree.

It's really impossible to rank him until we see how he does this season.

I don't expect him to be the near error-free quarterback that he was in the playoffs, but I'm hoping he'll be more consistent (especially in bad weather) than he's been to date.
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  1. Romo
  2. Manning
  3. McNabb
  4. Campbell
Romo is the better QB overall, the Giants winning the Super Bowl was more of a team effort (especially the defense). I mean, did you see Eli in that Vikings game? He had like 4 interceptions returned for TD's. And in the Week 15 Redskins game, he had like 35+ incompletions. McNabb has proved himself, but he hasn't been at his best lately. And like you guys have said, Campbell has potential, but needs to prove himself.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Romo is a myth

Romo is a myth. You fools all got suckered cos Sportscentre hyped him up and he got labelled the next Brett favre. In reality he's just a no-talent schmuck who needs to learn how to win when it counts.

I personally would rate Romo right between Tarvaris Jackson and Cleo Lemon in these 'League Quarterback Ratings". I'd take Colt Brennan over Romo.

As for "we'll see if Eli can keep it up" he's been doing it three years now. Giants fans are too busy crying cos he threw an interception one time to realise he's taken them to the playoffs every year as starting quarterback. Three times in three years. How many times did the Giants get there in the previous ten years? Three

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To revisit this, Eli wasn't all that hot this past week... Neither was Campbell... Leaving both Romo and McNabb both of which had huge weeks!
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To revisit this, Eli wasn't all that hot this past week... Neither was Campbell... Leaving both Romo and McNabb both of which had huge weeks!

Both played very weak defenses though... I'd give Romo the nod for week one. McNabb was great but he was playing maybe the worst team in the entire NFL
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Romo is a myth. You fools all got suckered cos Sportscentre hyped him up and he got labelled the next Brett favre. In reality he's just a no-talent schmuck who needs to learn how to win when it counts.

I personally would rate Romo right between Tarvaris Jackson and Cleo Lemon in these 'League Quarterback Ratings". I'd take Colt Brennan over Romo.

As for "we'll see if Eli can keep it up" he's been doing it three years now. Giants fans are too busy crying cos he threw an interception one time to realise he's taken them to the playoffs every year as starting quarterback. Three times in three years. How many times did the Giants get there in the previous ten years? Three

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right now as i write this romo is knocking up jessica while eli is jerking off to his brothers high school graduation picture. any1 who watches football and put's eli and romo in the same sentence should not be watching football on sundays he should be at church getting prayed for.romo is a thousand times better then shelie. and what are you talking about''we'll see if eli can keep it up'' keep what up his ****in erection for his teammates, because he had nothing to do with winning the superbowl last year his d-line did all the work.
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eli's wife isn't bad lookin, and jessica is a dumb bimbo
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oh yeah, Eli has a ring R(h)omo does not. end of discussion
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Um.....
1. Romo
2. McNabb
3. Eli
4. Campbell

You all are saying Romo is undeserving, but he is deserving and here's why:

Romo has only started 27 regular season games up to now, compared to McNabb (113), Eli (56), and Campbell (21).

Over those starts and all the games compared the passer ratings dole out like this:
1. Romo (96.7)
2. McNabb (86.2)
3. Campbell (77.4)
4. Eli (73.1)

Over all there games started, the stats come out averaged per game:
Yardage: 1. Romo (275.33 ypg) 2. McNabb (228.01 ypg) 3. Eli (207.16 ypg) 4. Campbell (196.67 ypg)

Touchdowns(passing&rushing): 1. Romo (2.148 TD/g) 2. McNabb (1.752 TD/g) 3. Eli (1.429 TD/g) 4. Campbell (1.143 TD/g)

Completion Percentage: 1. Romo (65.1%) 2. McNabb (58.7%) 3. Campbell (57.6%) 4. Eli (54.7%)

Completions: 1. Romo (21.44 comp/g) 2. McNabb (19.56 comp/g) 3. Eli (17.96 comp/g) 4. Campbell (17.86 comp/g)

Int (Romo's one problem area): 1. McNabb (0.699 INT/g) 2. Campbell (0.810 INT/g) 3. Romo (1.22 INT/g) 4. Eli (1.23 INT/g)

Fumbles (lost, less = better): 1. Romo (0.185 lost/g) 2. Eli (0.214 lost/g) 3. McNabb (0.327 lost/g) 4. Campbell (0.381 lost/g)

Other arguments include:

Romo has then intangible "feel" for the pocket (he can avoid pressure), sure McNabb can do it too, and Eli showed it once in the Super Bowl, but Romo does it on a consistant basis. He's as they say "slippery", ie. vs. Rams 2007.

McNabb tends to get injured too much, in the last 4 seasons he's missed 16 games due to injury (thats adds up to a WHOLE NFL regular season).

Eli is not consistant enough, hot and cold every other week (that's why his QB rating is so low compared to the rest of the QBs). Sure every QB has a bad game here and there, but in a shorter amount of games started Romo has had one or two horrible games, ie. @ Buffalo, but his good ones far outweighed his bad (not so with Eli).

Jason Campbell has yet to prove anything, both in the regular season and in the postseason.

I may be biased in my opinion that Romo is the top QB, but that's how I feel. Although, if I had to pick any other QB to be better than Romo in the East it would have to be McNabb (he's proven and a big threat to throw HUGE and scramble, and IMO much better than Campbell and Eli) but I still think Romo is the best in the division.
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oh yeah, Eli has a ring R(h)omo does not. end of discussion
Btw, Dan Marino doesn't have a ring and yet Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, and Eli Manning all have rings. Are you going to say those three QBs are better than Marino, end of discussion??
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