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Old 10-11-2007, 12:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Anyone seen Lockholt (T from OU) play? The guy totally dominated the DE out of Miami (Top 3 pick) and is massive - he's a JR at OU and played 2yrs JUCO before going there, but if he declares, he could quite possibly be the 1st T off the board. I think this years T class could be one of the best we've seen.

Long, Baker, Lockholt, Hills, Cheriolus, Clady, Richardson, Williams, Otah and Barton are all 1st and 2nd round picks and most would have been first rounders last year... I would definately not mind seeing us do something unheard of and use our 2nd first to replace Flozell "Flase Start" Adams....
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But remember, these Cowboys don't use 1st rounders on offense.
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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But remember, these Cowboys don't use 1st rounders on offense.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:27 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I still see us using a first on a FS or CB or both this year...
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I still don't see why they would waste a 1st rounder on a safety.
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I still see us using a first on a FS or CB or both this year...
It's between a CB and a WR this coming draft. We are thin at both positions and need some depth. I don't see FS being something we need to draft b/c so far Hamlin is playing well (2 INTs, not too many big plays). The only game our coverage unit has been really ripped apart was the Giants game, they have come together since. IF our secondary holds their ground somewhat and do not give up 300+ passing to Tom Brady I think we can back away from drafting secondary in the first round.
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I still don't see why they would waste a 1st rounder on a safety.

Do you remember Roy's rookie year? How good is the defense if Ware and Roy can both just pin their ears back and chase the ball all over the field. That's what a good cover FS does for this defense. If you call that waisting a 1st round pick I don't know why. I wouldn't mind if both picks in the 1st round were spent on a top tier CB and the 2nd pick a top tier cover saftey. Crayton is a good #2 WR in the NFL and #3 WRs are a dime a dozen...
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Man that is true if you actually draft a killer cover SS and just plug Roy in there as a specialist with the LBs. Just make up a position for him and let him roam the field as your 4th LB, but not really a LB. Just let him run around the field and blow ppl up.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I have changed my tune of Mike Hart LOL.

Anyways, I want to see either a WR, CB or safety in the 1st round picks. We can get a good DT in the 2nd round, because this is a loaded DT class.
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Let him play FS... if memory serves Woody was still the strong Saftey Roy's rookie year. I said it a million times in the Roy Williams thread, he needs to be playing "Rover" back there... not dropping back in coverage.
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How's that gonna help when Henry gets hurt like he does every year? Then the defense has to completely change the way it works. Newman is heading on 30...having injuries could happen a lot more for him. I would rather draft two CBs with the first rounders over safety all the way lol...without a single doubt in my mind it's more of a need.

Tyson thompson isn't a second string RB...he's a third stringer and a kickoff return guy. He has no moves and relys on sheer speed...it would be truly depressing if Barber got hurt and all they could fall back on is Tyson. I would see RB being more of a need than safety as well.

I guess you could throw WR in there....even though three of the main ones are coming back next year (Glenn I'm sure is gone). If someone is available...you can bring him in to learn under Owens and have the extra year since Owens will probably be gone in two years. I'd say it's about as equal as a safety need.

Needs>>>>wants lol.
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How's that gonna help when Henry gets hurt like he does every year? Then the defense has to completely change the way it works. Newman is heading on 30...having injuries could happen a lot more for him. I would rather draft two CBs with the first rounders over safety all the way lol...without a single doubt in my mind it's more of a need.

Tyson thompson isn't a second string RB...he's a third stringer and a kickoff return guy. He has no moves and relys on sheer speed...it would be truly depressing if Barber got hurt and all they could fall back on is Tyson. I would see RB being more of a need than safety as well.

I guess you could throw WR in there....even though three of the main ones are coming back next year (Glenn I'm sure is gone). If someone is available...you can bring him in to learn under Owens and have the extra year since Owens will probably be gone in two years. I'd say it's about as equal as a safety need.

Needs>>>>wants lol.
I am not about to highjack this thread with Roy Williams coverage talk... the whole point of this thread is to talk about what positions we'd like to see drafted, because the truth is a Stud RB... al la Steven Jackson... can always fall, or a beast O-line and if they do that's who you draft even if it isn't the most nesicary need. My point is I'd love to see the Cowboys sure up our pass defense, and to me that is 1... and only 1 corner and a coverage saftey. Newman isn't even close to being over the hill, in fact I think he is still on his way up and his best seasons are yet to come. Roy's best season, BY FAR, was his rookie year when we had Woody and he was playing FS. He had more tackles, still his career high in INTs and was a hoss. A stud SS is just as important as the 3rd best RB or 5th best WR would be from next years draft... which is what we are looking at with the 28th or higher pick.
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I am not about to highjack this thread with Roy Williams coverage talk... the whole point of this thread is to talk about what positions we'd like to see drafted, because the truth is a Stud RB... al la Steven Jackson... can always fall, or a beast O-line and if they do that's who you draft even if it isn't the most nesicary need. My point is I'd love to see the Cowboys sure up our pass defense, and to me that is 1... and only 1 corner and a coverage saftey. Newman isn't even close to being over the hill, in fact I think he is still on his way up and his best seasons are yet to come. Roy's best season, BY FAR, was his rookie year when we had Woody and he was playing FS. He had more tackles, still his career high in INTs and was a hoss. A stud SS is just as important as the 3rd best RB or 5th best WR would be from next years draft... which is what we are looking at with the 28th or higher pick.
I'm not exactly sure why you brought him up in this thread at all. I persoanlly would like to have two CBs and a damn good back up that could easily come in and not have to play 15 yards off the WR and change the whole defensive philosophy. Having to compensate for not having a good back up takes away from what Wades defense is. Who can get pressure on quick drops and throws? Newman is closing in on 30...I'm not saying he's over the hill....I'm saying he could become injury prone. Henry is injury prone and gets hurt every year.

The Cowboys are adequate at Safety...spending a first rounder on that this year with much more pressing needs just wouldn't be smart in my book.
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I think everyone can agree we are thin at both CB and WR. Drafting a safety would be an added bonus, but our priorities are CBs and WRs.
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I think everyone can agree we are thin at both CB and WR. Drafting a safety would be an added bonus, but our priorities are CBs and WRs.
I still don't get how we're thin at WR when we have TO, Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Austin and Stanback
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