Transplanted Caper

I would say he clearly has an attitude problem given his criminal record. He has the classic me first sports attitude, give me a final chance and I'll still go drink a few beers and get behind the wheel of my car. He wasn't over the limit, but thats irrelevant, he went and sped when he was on the thinnest of strings with the team and the league.

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Roy_Williams318

I've never heard about any attitude involving the team....he causes no problems in the lockerroom or out on the field. The contract he was signed too erased my only problem I had with him which was off the field issues. Nothing he does off the field can hurt the team chemistry or anything other than himself in any way (Cause he'll get the boot without doubt the second anything happens). For the talent and money...hell I'm beyond happy with the signing...I don't see how anyone wouldn't be.

If he wasn't over the limit I have no problem with what he did....he obviously didn't drink much of anything. The guns aren't a major concern of mine either....as long as he isn't using em to beat, shoot or threaten people with.

(If he keeps clean hopefully he'll replace that bum Spears next year.)

Troy McClure

The team needs depth on the d-line. How does this move hurt that?

Gzus

Just because you used to play a 4-3 doesn't mean you can't learn to play in a 3-4 and not succeed. Anything can happen, and for all you know Tank may actually be great as a NT and have no more involvement with the law. You gotta give the guy a second chance, he's served his time and I believe he is sincere about his changes. I mean if he turns out to be phenomenal I'll have TC and Goose as naysayers and I can tell you "I told ya so." But if he happens to be horrible I can say "Yes TC and Goose, ya'll were right, but it didn't cost our team much at all." As I have said before low risk, high reward.

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Gzus

All of of speed at one point or another. Hell I'm usually always over by at least 10 mph if not more. The guy got in trouble for having 3 rifles, 3 handguns and 500 rounds of ammo, seriously TC if you lived down here in Texas that would be considered light, not even manly. Shoot, I got me 5 rifles, 3 shotguns, 3 handguns, and a lot more than 500 rounds in my place and I'm considered to be packing light. Welcome Tank to Texas and I would love to go hunting with ya sometime.

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druzus

i know what your saying, but you dont know yet if it will cost your team or not yet. what if he does do somthing that effes up the vibes in the locker room? and be cause of that the team looses games? then, it is a case where it cost the team a lot. more than money. wins and losses.

i know you dont think its gonna be like that, but the fact that over the offseason there were espn reports that said mostly every GM wantted nothing to do with him speaks volumes. maybe it wont be like that, but theres no telling right now.

I know you probably are just thinking im saying what im saying cause im an eagles fan, but that has nothing to do with how i feel about him, and the potential disruption he is, *especially* when you combine that with someone like TO. im obviously in the minority, but just stating my opinion. if it works out for yall great, but i think yall are a little naive to think that there is no cause for concern because of some degree of a potential disruption from tank.

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Gzus

I wouldn't believe everything espn says, they said Eli out for 2 months and Eli came and played in Week 2, he might not have shown up but he played. There was always talk of him coming to Dallas a day or two after he got released from Chicago. The thing is Tank was never an issue in the locker room, he was never a disruption in the Bears locker room, and was never a bad guy. Tank just made some bad off the field decisions which led to his legal problems, but he has never been accused of being a bad teammate or a negative influence in the locker room, just someone who made some bad choices off the field.

SI.com - NFL - Tank on joining Cowboys: 'It's a great opportunity' - Wednesday September 19, 2007 4:21PM
Both Urlacher and Lovie Smith have repeatedly said that Tank was a great teammate and locker room presence and just showed poor judgment off the field. So the only real risk of having Tank on our team is that he'll do something stupid off the field and get suspended, not tear apart our locker room b/c of his bad social skills like many of ya'll think.

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Roy_Williams318

No one player can cause a team to lose a game....plus if he does mess up anything involving the team he's gone. That's why he was signed to a minimum contract. There's no risk...especially sincce he's never had any attitude in the locker room....why would that even be a debate?

Off the field only...In Texas it's a dfferent monster involving gun laws. Plus, the Cowboys are the ones that always give players another chance...rarely does it hurt them in any way...hell I can't remember a time.

Can someone bring up Tank having lockerroom problems...or problems with the team on the field? I'm asking a serious question....cause by the sounds of it you'd think he was pistol whipping his teammates and cussing out coaches.

(Edit: Well there you go with the above post...from his coaches and teammates...people are over doing it.)

Goose

Oh no, read my first post... I like the move because we risk nothing. I am just saying I doubt he really ever sees the field. If he does great and I have not problem with giving him the chance.

Goose

Playing on a D-line with Tommy Harris and Alex Brown with 4 down lineman is a big difference than playing next to Canty and Spears as 1 of just 3 down lineman.

I hope he works and like I have said I have no beef with giving him a chance... I just say tap the breaks a little on considering him a pass rushing force up the middle.

druzus

no, one player can cause a team to lose a game

now,

i dont think anything any one of you guys say is gonna change my mind in thinking that yall are being a little naive in saying that there is absolutly no risk in having a tank johnson on your team.

again, i dont blame you for it, and i dont blame you all for not admitting it.

im being as unbiased as possible and just calling it like i see it.

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Troy McClure

One major player can. One depth player can't.

Gzus

NTs are not considered to be a pass rushing force. They are not expected to get sacks or hit the QB, if they do that is extra.
In 3-4 defense an NT is expected to clog the middle and demand a double team from the center and one of the two guards. In demanding this double team it opens up a whole and leaves on of the rushing LBs a lane to attack the passer or hit the ball carrier. If your NT is not large enough, ie. Ratliff, than he will not demand a double team which then effectively eliminates your pass rushers to pass blocker advantage.
Tank is large enough and fast enough to demand that double team in the middle, and therefore I believe he will be a positive force in our defense. This should open up some lanes in the middle for our MLBs and OLBs to attack the QB and RBs.
When it comes to the 3-4 NT size is everything, which is something Tank has and Ratliff lacks.

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druzus

in 99/100 scenarios, yeah, your probably right.

but imo the better answer to that is, it depends.

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Roy_Williams318

If your team is full of "mental midgets" then yeah one player could probably effect them.