Goose

Perfect expample of my last post... our expectations are pretty high. Three straight seasons of 5-11 before Parcells and making the playoffs 2 out 3 seasons gets him hated by Cowboy fans.

Troy McClure

Highest paid coach in the land... Allowed to mold his own staff, bully the media, and buy his own ingredients... Four straight years of late season collapses... Four straight years of doing nothing to improve the o-line.

He gets hate because with all the hype, money, and expectations, all he delivered was a .500 record and two playoff losses. Sorry, the fans in Dallas have higher expectations than that. His tenure was a failure.

Daddy Duck

I agree totally. Parcells followed by Gruden, Holmgren and Gibbs.

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Gzus

Yeah man totally agree with you there. I loved when they brought him in, but got tired of it after he started to tear apart that stellar defense with Dat and the smaller faster defenders. What has our 3-4 done lately, nothing but fall apart, wasn't he supposed to be a defensive guy??? O well I didn't think he was overrated when he got here, but the last four years have changed my mind. And hopefully Wade Phillips can change all that.

In my mind the second most overrated coach had to have been Saban, look at what he was hyped to do in Miami. He was supposed to bring all the glory he had in LSU, but what does he do, he jumps ship and runs back to college ball for more money. He had something going there but o well.

Transplanted Caper

He did nothing to improve the team while he was here, particularly the O-Line which was the most glaring weakness. Things should have built after his first season. If he was as good a coach as people think he is, we should have been Super Bowl contenders last year based on a three year growth period.

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hit_'em88

Parcells is pretty overrated
Gruden took the work Tony Dungy did and won a super bowl but did do a good job in oakland
Holmgren did take a nothing team and nothing QB at the time in Green Bay and won a super bowl but he's definitly underacheived in Seattle
Gibbs won 4 super bowls with 4 different QBs so i wouldn't call him overrated. I dont think Lombardi could do alot with this team. He nearly beat the Seahawks in Seattle durin the playoffs the year they won the NFC Championship with basically the same team he has now

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Daddy Duck

With the exception of Holmgren what have those other coaches done in recent times? NOTHING

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Goose

I am not going to quote all the Cowboy posts because they all said pretty much the same thing.

O-line... It is much better than it was before he got here. How short of a memory do you guys have? Do you not remember how horrible they played in those 5-11 seasons? He turned Adams into a probowler, and added some talent in Columbo and Rivera. Both were upgrades. I give him a B+ on O-line

3-4, I agree it was/is a bust, but is it a lost cause? We have one of the most talented OLBs in the league who is made to play the 3-4. It didn't happen as quick as we wanted but I am not ready to say it was a horrible idea and should be scrapped. I give him a C- on the 3-4

Running Back - How do I even address this? Passing on Jackson almost automatically gets him an F, but the tandom of MBIII and Juice Jones is pretty good. I will give him a C+.

QB - A+++++++++, He gets all the credit for Romo, and I have no problem with him bringing in Bledsoe when he did. If he would have brought in some young guy (Romo) and started him from day 1, we would have marched him out of here after year 2. He did it right, its just too bad Bledsoe fell apart after 11 games.

WR- Glenn has been a class move since we brought him here. I also thought Meshawn was an asset while he wore the star. TO isn't on Parcells and we all know it. He gets an A on WRs.

Overall - B+, His faults are bringing in old players in key positions that couldn't be relied on down the stretch and being too hard headed in switching to the 3-4, but if you think this team isn't miles ahead of where it was when he took over you are on crack.

I am not saying it wasn't time for a change, but to say he is the most overrated because he didn't win the SB is insane. We may expect more but he turned this franchise back around, we were the dogs of the east and a laughing stock amongst fans in the league, we were the butt of every joke after Gailey and Campo turned this team into a locker room of losers.

He is damned by his own success and arrogance, but that doesn't make him overrated. Just like me changing my stance on Reid, our expectations are high, but he did a lot for this franchise and neither of those two guys should be mentioned in this thread.

Troy McClure

Miles ahead, but still far behind the real leaders. Yeah, he bumped the team up from being a joke to being .500 and really everage.

And now the team is middle of the pack average. Maybe the worst of all the playoff teams. It's not about winning Super Bowls. It's that the Cowboys were never once even a possible contender for a Super Bowl or a good playoff run.

Goose

I think we were the 3rd best team in the NFC last year. Hopefully that isn't the homer in me. The Seattle loss was a fluke, it was a loss and that's all that matters but what were we going to do against Chicago or the Saints anyway. They were clearly the class of the NFC.


See above, I still think we are much better than middle of the pack or average. For the majority of 2006 we were even considered the class of the NFC, a late season faulter knocked us down a few pegs but we still have a good (maybe great) QB, great RB duo, and a good Defense. That's the foundation you build a champion on.

Troy McClure

I strongly disagree. Going through four straight late-season collapses is not how champions are built. It will lead to the two first-round exits this team had.

Goose

I am not saying I am not disapointed, I am saying we are much much better. Also I am not saying we are a championship team now, I am saying we have put some of the key measures (the foundation) in place. This was Romo's first year as a starter, for the most part our Defense is young and the 3-4 is very new to most of the players. Our expectations were too high, we expected parcells to win us a SB in 3 years. That's a tall order, instead he just made our team a hell of a lot better.

I mean seriously go back and look at this team in 2002 and compare it to what we have today....

QB - 2002 Hutch and Carter, seriously? No question
RB - 2002 Emmits last year, didn't even break 1,000 yards
WR - 2002 Galloway and Bryany... they didn't combine for as many TDs as TO had himself, and that isn't even throwing Glenn into the arguement.
TE - Ha ha ha Mcgee or Witten that's insane
OL - Allen (only 3 starts), Ross Tucker???, Tyson Walter????, and Soloman Page???? With Gurode playing evey posistion on the O-line that season. Horrible... probably worst in the league that season.
Defense... I am not going to break it down position by position because we play a complete different scheme, but outside of DL our Defense is better at almost every single position.

Sure this team didn't go as far as we wanted last year, but make no mistake about it Parcells was worth every cent we paid him, and if Wade can come in and put the finishing touches on this foundation we will have a ring in next couple of years.

Troy McClure

Honestly, if you go down the roster, almost every single position now is better than it was. Some by great strides. He did a fine job of overhauling the talent pool, and that's why I say Parcells is an overrated coach. With a far superior roster, he didn't get much out of it. That almost makes these results worse. Even with far better players, he still had nothing to show for it in the playoffs.

Goose

We will just have to agree to disagree my friend.

Gzus

Even though Parcells was a slight bust in the four years he was here, you all have to agree the team is better off for it. I mean look at what we could have on defense. With the defensive scheming of Wade Phillips the Big Dallas D could be tops in the NFC if not the NFL. The man implemented very good pieces and improved the team from the embarrassing years of Campo and Gailey. We have what looks to be a QB of the future, a young and improvable defense, and a pretty decent O-line. I think his biggest fault was that he was stuck in the past, he never adjusted to the new NFL. Parcells was always stuck in the days of the Giants. I mean the atmosphere in the Cowboys organization was uptight and too serious, and at the end of each season it could be clearly seen. Parcells rode his team into the ground and at the end of the season they had nothing left in em. That was his biggest fault, stuck in the past. But overall he established very good pieces to the puzzle and has possibly laid the foundation of a very competitive team who will compete for the title for years to come, or so we Cowboys fans hope. And in the end to hope and to cheer is all we fans can do.