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Philadelphia Eagles Bad move by Eagles

The Eagles are not going to resign the QB who lead them to the playoffs and got them to the second round and saved the season, Jeff Garcia. How freakin dumb are they??? Without Garcia they probably wouldnt have made the playoffs and definitly wouldnt made it past the first tound. I think Donovan McNabb had a say in this cause he is scared of loosin his job. Whoever gets him will be lucky cause they will have 1) a good veteran QB 2) A QB that can still win and even if he dont win immediantly they will have a dependable backup for a young QB
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The Eagles are not going to resign the QB who lead them to the playoffs and got them to the second round and saved the season, Jeff Garcia. How freakin dumb are they??? Without Garcia they probably wouldnt have made the playoffs and definitly wouldnt made it past the first tound. I think Donovan McNabb had a say in this cause he is scared of loosin his job. Whoever gets him will be lucky cause they will have 1) a good veteran QB 2) A QB that can still win and even if he dont win immediantly they will have a dependable backup for a young QB
well, at first this was unvelievable to me. now, after i actually found an article about this, im very dissapointed also...
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they didnt even give him an offer, its clear they DID NOT want him for another season. another stupid move imo
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yaaa..def something going on behind the scenes i guess. id say more than likely has to do with the eagles not wantting any contraversy to surround the team all next year while they trying to concentrate on games each week. the last thing we need here are distractions...having two more than capable and healthy quarterbacks would be a big distraction especially since jeff did so well last year and don is gonna start for sure next...

...heres a useful tidbit that was missing from the first post

Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/27/2007 | Garcia is 'surprised' by Birds' lack of offer
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I think it's because Donovan McNabb doesn't want a gay guy showing him up.
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McNabb is injury prone and who is his backup now... AJ FEELY!?!? this is very dumb they desperately need a good experienced backup
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I would completely disagree.

Garcia is a very limited player. He just happened to play on a team that ran a system that masked his shortcomings. He got on a hot streak at the right time and now has a chance to cash in on it. The truth is that Garcia has failed as the starting QB for 2 teams since leaving the Niners. Failed badly. The ONLY time he has been successful is when he is in a pure dink-and-dunk WCO system.

Please note, I am not saying that Garcia is a bad player, just that he needs a very specific environment to be effective. Put him on the Colts, Patriots or any other team that plays more vertically and he would struggle. He isn't good just sitting in the pocket and doesn't have the arm to go deep.

Garcia got his wish. He signed a 1-year deal on a team that, if given a chance, he could look good on. He wanted that so he could cash in as a FA. He can. He is not the best FA QB on the market. Eagles are not going to give him a multi-year 3+ mil per deal just to caddy for McNabb (and make no mistake, McNabb is a far better QB). Garcia will get a shot to start someplace else, he should take it.

From the Eagles side, Feeley was "Garcia" just a few years back. Stepped in for McNabb and lead them into the play-offs. In that case, McNabb returned, but the situation is very similar. Feeley bombed miserably as a starter. As a back-up though, he is decent. He will cost far less than Garcia and won't be a potential distraction if he isn't able to start.

Garcia wasn't a threat to start over McNabb. McNabb has been a consistent good to great QB for his career. Even last year, McNabb played better than Garcia. Garcia just had the softer schedule (his only two noteworthy opponents were the Cowboys and Giants; both of which were a mess when the Eagles faced them). Garcia represents an upgrade to many teams, but the Eagles are not one of them.
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I think Donovan McNabb had a say in this cause he is scared of loosin his job.
McNabb like L.T really exposed his true character. After his injury didnt even hang out on the sideline or show support until after they where a playoff team when he all of a sudden did. Then wishes ill against them in a playoff run. Get a real QB, a grinder like Garcia rather than some wishy washy b.s QB who does nothing but lose big games.
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McNabb is a starting caliber player in the nfl and the face of his franchise and if he wants to have aj feely as the starter when he gets injured again then let him have it but he's not gonna get a ring doin that
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McNabb like L.T really exposed his true character. After his injury didnt even hang out on the sideline or show support until after they where a playoff team when he all of a sudden did. Then wishes ill against them in a playoff run. Get a real QB, a grinder like Garcia rather than some wishy washy b.s QB who does nothing but lose big games.
thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
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I would completely disagree.

Garcia is a very limited player. He just happened to play on a team that ran a system that masked his shortcomings. He got on a hot streak at the right time and now has a chance to cash in on it. The truth is that Garcia has failed as the starting QB for 2 teams since leaving the Niners. Failed badly. The ONLY time he has been successful is when he is in a pure dink-and-dunk WCO system.

Please note, I am not saying that Garcia is a bad player, just that he needs a very specific environment to be effective. Put him on the Colts, Patriots or any other team that plays more vertically and he would struggle. He isn't good just sitting in the pocket and doesn't have the arm to go deep.

Garcia got his wish. He signed a 1-year deal on a team that, if given a chance, he could look good on. He wanted that so he could cash in as a FA. He can. He is not the best FA QB on the market. Eagles are not going to give him a multi-year 3+ mil per deal just to caddy for McNabb (and make no mistake, McNabb is a far better QB). Garcia will get a shot to start someplace else, he should take it.

From the Eagles side, Feeley was "Garcia" just a few years back. Stepped in for McNabb and lead them into the play-offs. In that case, McNabb returned, but the situation is very similar. Feeley bombed miserably as a starter. As a back-up though, he is decent. He will cost far less than Garcia and won't be a potential distraction if he isn't able to start.

Garcia wasn't a threat to start over McNabb. McNabb has been a consistent good to great QB for his career. Even last year, McNabb played better than Garcia. Garcia just had the softer schedule (his only two noteworthy opponents were the Cowboys and Giants; both of which were a mess when the Eagles faced them). Garcia represents an upgrade to many teams, but the Eagles are not one of them.
You make some good points. I guess i never really thought about it like that. Even though the Lions and Browns can ruin anyones careers.Who is better in this FA market than Garcia cause I dont see very many good QBs out there but I think the Eagles should have kept him because what if Mcnabb goes down again? Feely is good but maybe the Miami experience might have ruined him. Mcnabb is very good but he is injury prone and they need a good proven backup to take care of the team while he is hurt. Maning why are you always hatin on LT? Dont makin it to the SB mean you won a big game or two?
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You make some good points. I guess i never really thought about it like that. Even though the Lions and Browns can ruin anyones careers.Who is better in this FA market than Garcia cause I dont see very many good QBs out there but I think the Eagles should have kept him because what if Mcnabb goes down again? Feely is good but maybe the Miami experience might have ruined him. Mcnabb is very good but he is injury prone and they need a good proven backup to take care of the team while he is hurt. Maning why are you always hatin on LT? Dont makin it to the SB mean you won a big game or two?
Garcia said he would be happy as the back-up and wanted to stay. But talk is cheap and he can get away with that because the Eagles didn't make an offer. Eagles tend to keep their cards close to the vest, so it is quite possible (I would say likely) that they did some preliminary work to see what kind of offer Garcia and his agent wanted to see in order to stay.

I am not an AJ fan and think the Eagles should find a Plan C as McNabb has become injury prone and may not be 100% when the season starts. That said, there is a draft ahead and wouldn't be unexpected too see the Eagles draft somebody. They often do. Considering the current state of affairs, it may be somebody in the 3rd or 4th round. If their intent is to come away with a QB from the draft, then resigning both Feeley and Garcia would be a mistake. Feeley was cheaper and likely easier to sign. I don't neccesairly agree with it, but can understand the logic.

As for Garcia, this may just be a smokescreen. Had the Eagles did make him an offer, we don't know if he would accept it or not. I VERY much doubt he would have taken AJ Feeley money to stay.

As for Manning, he hates on everyone. Both players and posters. It is kinda a running joke, albeit unintentional humor.
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McNabb like L.T really exposed his true character. After his injury didnt even hang out on the sideline or show support until after they where a playoff team when he all of a sudden did. Then wishes ill against them in a playoff run. Get a real QB, a grinder like Garcia rather than some wishy washy b.s QB who does nothing but lose big games.
Wishy Washy QB? He led the league in passing yards before he got injured.
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Mcnabb isn't wishy washy...out of his prime yes but not wishy washy
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McNabb like L.T really exposed his true character. After his injury didnt even hang out on the sideline or show support until after they where a playoff team when he all of a sudden did. Then wishes ill against them in a playoff run. Get a real QB, a grinder like Garcia rather than some wishy washy b.s QB who does nothing but lose big games.

Wishy Washy QB? He led the league in passing yards before he got injured.
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