Rick Astley

I cannot believe I just read this...

MANNING18

Ever heard of Randal Cunningham?

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Rick Astley

OK, you missed the whole point, so I'm done with this convo.

P.S. -> Speak not of my football knowledge; you know little about what I do and don't know.

vcx

Way to be appreciative to a guy that still gave them hope eh? I'm used to Garcia from the CFL, he's a class act and a good guy with a hot gf (Owens aww you b****). I don't think the Eagles understand that having a solid backup like Garcia is pretty beneficial, oh well their loss is someone else's gain.

And McNabb sucks, "Big Game Blunder" should be his nickname.

MANNING18

The point to what? you didnt say anything.

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vcx

Take a look at his gf, if you have to be gay to land something like that, colour me pink and call me fruity.



And they're engaged to be married May 2007...now how do you like those pathetic "Gay" rumours Terrell Owens started, a man who has no gf and is probably taking it up chocolate river as we speak.

hit_'em88

she's hot but that post was pretty unneccessary.... anyway garcia is a buc and has some good weapons in cadillac,galloway and that other good young receiver i cant remember his name maybe he'll have a good year and shut up everyone who calls him a "system QB"

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vcx

Maybe my eyes are deceiving me, but didn't the Bucs trade for Jake the Fake?

And that post about Garcia being gay did tick me off, i was a fan of his when he was a Stampede and wanted him on the Lions, we did get a Stampede QB in the end, an injury prone one but still a champ.

JCD

Out of morbid curiosity, how was Cunningham an underachiever for the Eagles?

Before he took over, the Eagles were a sub-.500 team with a bad offene. He carried that offense on his back to the tune of a couple MVPs, several post-season runs and a number of records in the books. It wasn't until Reggie White was on the way out and he was beaten down with injuries that they FINALLY gave him a 1000 yard WR or RB to work with. Up until that point, he had one of the worst cast of WRs and RBs (unless you think you can build an offense around a pass-catching FB... who bulked up his numbers as a dump-off option).

Cunningham took the Eagles team as far as it could have gone. I would argue that no QB was going to take that team to a SuperBowl because they just didn't have the talent. Other than Cunningham, the offense had very little to work with.

Though to bring this back on topic, what makes McNabb wishy-washy compared to Garcia? What has Garcia done that McNabb hasn't done FAR better? Well, other than be kicked off two teams for being a bust as a starter that is.

vcx

McNabb chokes when the pressure is on.


At least i can vouch that Garcia is a champ, in the CFL he led his team to the Grey Cup. Now you can be a total **** and say the CFL sucks and go ******** yourself (just saying, you could...) or acknowledge that he gets no respect because at his age he wanted another shot at the NFL and when he got it, he got his chances and while many QB's in the NFL do get chances, not many stick around for long on their teams.

A lot of QB's get traded, or are cut or not signed just so some wide eyed tycoon owner can sign or draft the next hottest thing off the draft with the most potential (by word of mouth and college praises) is on his team. Then when they end up with a Leaf, they go out and trade for one, then people say that player that was traded for sucks because he got traded and disregard any talent that said player has.

Funny thing this sport business is and the group that is blind or bandwagoners, homers or whatever other word i am not remembering right now.

Jeff Garcia came in, as a back-up and picked up the team's hopes and took them to the playoffs. How many teams (other than Dallas) can do that? Throw in their back-up and pray to make the playoffs the way Garcia did? Now i look at Philly's roster and its not really mind blowing, so you can't say it wasn't him that rallied the troops. As for McNabb's character, i've seen the moron enough times to know he's a joke, it's just a matter of time till he's the next off season big trade and that isn't too far off.

Next season, McScabb is going to get traded, bookmark this, quote me and put it in your sig..whatever. He is not going to be an Eagle come next off season.

vcx

Plus i think the stupid rumors that Owens started didn't help. Owens has left a pretty nasty path of destruction from team to team. It's just a matter of time till he completely screws up the Cowboys (please don't let that happen).

Transplanted Caper

Owens is a complete nutjob. That's pretty much a consensus.

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JCD

Literally actually. Elway and Manning had that tag as well.

Won't say the CFL sucks, but will say it is a very different league and doesn't have the same caliber of players as the NFL. Doug Flutie was also an elite CFL QB, he was marginal in the NFL.

CFL success is no gauge for NFL success.

Um, new to the sport?

Owners don't run the draft (unless you are the Raiders). Nor do they go just off word-of-mouth. They have professional scouts follow these players all year. They watch hundreds of hours of tape. After that, they go to the combine and pro days to put them through all sorts of test and drills to see just how well they think they can play. This isn't Madden.

As for Garcia specifically, he wasn't cut because a stud QB was brought in. He got cut the old-fashioned way: he EARNED it.

In Detroit, he was brought in TO REPLACE Harrington. He couldn't even keep Harrington on the bench.

Cleveland was the exact same thing. No young QB forced him off the roster. He was brought in to replace Couch. He stunk.

Neither team went out and signed some hot QB to replace Garcia.

Must not follow the Eagles. Change that name to Feeley and you have 2002 all over again.

A back-up coming in and taking over happens quite often. Brady didn't just step in for Bledose, he won the SuperBowl. Kurt Warner did the same thing when Trent Green went down for the Rams. Rothlisberger took over for the injured Maddox and never looked back. Brunnel floundered as the Redskins starter, Campbell took over and led them into the post-season.

Don't make Garcia's accomplishment into some grand occurance. It is something that happens a number of times every season.

Yes you can't say he didn't. There is a bigger reason for the Eagles success: their schedule. His 7-game stretch was the softest part of the Eagles schedule. His only noteworthy opponents were the Colts (a loss) and two eventual play-off teams in freefall: Cowboys and Giants. Atlanta, Panthers, Redskins and Titans were the other teams.

So the truth comes out. You just don't like McNabb. Was it the Chunky Soup commercials? I hate those too.

Got it quoted here. How confident are you in this? Lets make it interesting. If McNabb is still an Eagle for the 2008 season, I get you signiture for 1 year.

rebel26

I see nothin unnecccessay about that post

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hit_'em88

the whole part about owens taken it up the chocolate river was unnecessary owens is trash who dropped more passes than he had TD's

anyway JCD, Campbell didn't take them to the playoffs in fact he won less games than brunell Gibbs just wanted to start next year a little sooner

i don't think john elway could've turned around the Lions and Browns teams Garcia was thrown into you cant completly bame him for that

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