Seriously Pollsters?

[FancyFootball44]

AP POLL
1 LSU (65)6-01,62512 California5-01,53833 Ohio State6-01,51144 Boston College6-01,34675 South Florida5-01,33966 Oklahoma5-11,221107 South Carolina5-11,183118 West Virginia5-11,059139 Oregon4-11,0471410 USC4-11,024211 Missouri5-09661712 Virginia Tech5-19101513 Florida4-2822914 Arizona State6-07521815 Cincinnati6-07052016 Hawaii6-06341617 Kentucky5-1612818 Illinois5-1595NR19 Wisconsin5-1551520 Kansas5-0336NR21 Florida State4-1307NR22 Auburn4-2248NR23 Texas4-21361924 Georgia4-21311225 Tennessee3-290NR
COACH'S POLL
1 LSU (58)6-01,49822 California5-01,41633 Ohio State (2)6-01,39944 Boston College6-01,28365 Oklahoma5-11,145105 South Florida5-01,14597 USC4-11,00018 Oregon4-1936139 West Virginia5-19311210 Virginia Tech5-19131411 Missouri5-08971712 South Carolina5-18231813 Arizona State6-07631914 Florida4-2714715 Wisconsin5-1689516 Hawaii6-06321517 Cincinnati6-05782418 Kentucky5-1493819 Illinois5-1425NR20 Kansas5-0390NR21 Florida State4-1213NR22 Texas4-21951623 Georgia4-21881124 Purdue5-11492025 Auburn4-2143NR

The coaches poll has USC ranked at 7. 7! SEVEN?!?!?!?! After losing to a team that won ONE game last year, a FORTY ONE POINT underdog to USC. With a QB that had never started a college game before. Oh and AT HOME. I don't believe it. I really don't.

I'd say this is a bigger upset than Michigan loss to Appl. State and they dropped completely OUT of the polls. USC should at least be far away from the top 10. They struggled the week before against Washington. Their "big win" against Nebraska, not looking so big anymore. Blah, ok I'm done ranting now.

[Jay]

Get em Fancy ... that's why the polls are a joke ... Their loss is no better than Mich losing to Appalachian St.

Now can we start saying Pac 10 bias

[Daddy Duck]

The polls have been out of whack in every sense this season. USC at #7 in the coaches poll is a joke, no doubt. I wouldn't say that this is a bigger upset than Michigan App. State. USC lost to an in conference foe. This game is more similar to Oklahoma losing to Colarado.

[MaddHatter]

The Polls are a joke - USC should be in the 15-20 range and probably won't make it past Cal either.

[Rocky Top]

I dont think Stanfords upset of USC is as big as App St./Mich due to them being a conference foe and the number of scholarship athletes. Wisconsin dropped much further and was beat by a good Illinois team. I think USC should be somewhere around 13-15. The coaches poll has Va Tech ranked #10. They are ranked ahead of Missouri, South Carolina, Arizona St., Florida, and Wisconsin. REDICULOUS!! South Carolina has beat Georgia and Kentucky, and has only been beaten by LSU, I think they lost by 14. LSU beat VT by 41 freakin points!!. Thats 6 touchdowns, or 13 field goals, however you want to look at it. Florida would beat them as bad as LSU did. Like I said last week, if you all can figure this BS out, your alot smarter than ole Rocky Top.

[SEC]

well Rocky , you're pretty much on track. when these people realize the polls are more of a popularity contest than anything to do with talent or teamwork, then we'll all be better off. & i don't agree the USC loss to an unranked nobody of a team that was predicted to be beaten completely off the field is anything like what's been mentioned on this board. i think it's the loss of the decade. that's 10 years to whoever doesn't know. this was the best laugh i've seen since the blue collar comedy tour. & I LOVED every minute of seeing USC getting beat. & by a nobdy. & i'll say this now once more............. it doesn't make a bit of difference if it's a conference game or not. they got beat by a nobody. PERIOD!!!! a damn nobody. as i said way back. LSU WAS & IS number one. whether you like the SEC or not. they are number one. & this USC team was supposed to be the best in the pac 10.
HA!!!!!!!!! just hope they don't play south carolina.

but Jay ........ i'd like for you to explain what you meant by the pac 10 bias? Fancy hit this right where he needed to. Rocky's post was real good. & Jay i think you've figured it out.

[Daddy Duck]

Originally Posted by Jay

Get em Fancy ... that's why the polls are a joke ... Their loss is no better than Mich losing to Appalachian St.

Now can we start saying Pac 10 bias

We can say USC bias. When i look at this crazy season i'm really not seeing to much bias towards one conference or another. The exception being the Big 10, pollsters have really punished Michigan and Wisconsin. Otherwise your seeing alot of the traditional powerhouse teams getting a pass....USC not dropping like they should, Oklahoma back near the top, a two loss Florida team ahead of several major conference undefeated's. These traditional powers have an easier road. Once BC, USF, and others lose they'll fall hard. It already happened to good Kentucky team. They went from 8th to 17th for losing to a damn good South Carolina team.

The bottom line is that the pollsters want to keep traditionally recognizable teams alive. USC is getting a free ride along with a handful of other programs.

[Daddy Duck]

Originally Posted by Rocky Top

I dont think Stanfords upset of USC is as big as App St./Mich due to them being a conference foe and the number of scholarship athletes. Wisconsin dropped much further and was beat by a good Illinois team. I think USC should be somewhere around 13-15. The coaches poll has Va Tech ranked #10. They are ranked ahead of Missouri, South Carolina, Arizona St., Florida, and Wisconsin. REDICULOUS!! South Carolina has beat Georgia and Kentucky, and has only been beaten by LSU, I think they lost by 14. LSU beat VT by 41 freakin points!!. Thats 6 touchdowns, or 13 field goals, however you want to look at it. Florida would beat them as bad as LSU did. Like I said last week, if you all can figure this BS out, your alot smarter than ole Rocky Top.

Good call Rocky, i have been thinking about this the last couple of days. For anyone that thinks USC's loss to Stanford is anywhere near as bad as Michigans was to App. State needs to get that out of their head real quick. Stanford is a team with several 3 and 4 star recruits. Players who were recruited by USC's, Oregon's and Cal's etc, etc.... How many of those kids at App. State even had D1 ofers???

[Jay]

Originally Posted by SEC

well Rocky , you're pretty much on track. when these people realize the polls are more of a popularity contest than anything to do with talent or teamwork, then we'll all be better off. & i don't agree the USC loss to an unranked nobody of a team that was predicted to be beaten completely off the field is anything like what's been mentioned on this board. i think it's the loss of the decade. that's 10 years to whoever doesn't know. this was the best laugh i've seen since the blue collar comedy tour. & I LOVED every minute of seeing USC getting beat. & by a nobdy. & i'll say this now once more............. it doesn't make a bit of difference if it's a conference game or not. they got beat by a nobody. PERIOD!!!! a damn nobody. as i said way back. LSU WAS & IS number one. whether you like the SEC or not. they are number one. & this USC team was supposed to be the best in the pac 10.
HA!!!!!!!!! just hope they don't play south carolina.

but Jay ........ i'd like for you to explain what you meant by the pac 10 bias? Fancy hit this right where he needed to. Rocky's post was real good. & Jay i think you've figured it out.

Meaning basically because they’re a Pac 10 school and they lost to another Pac 10 School so the idiot pollsters are trying everything possible to keep USC in the BCS hunt. IMO they shouldn’t even be in the top 20 and I completely agree with your analysis. Regardless if this is a conference loss Stanford was supposed to be a 40 point underdog. Don’t play the conference 'card' now when it suits USC needs because if it was just that, there is no way that USC goes into that game as a 40 point favorite … and like DD said yea it’s probably more of a USC bias but USC is basically the mouth that feeds the Pac 10

[Eksynyt]

Originally Posted by Jay

USC bias but USC is basically the mouth that feeds the Pac 10

That's because we have the worst commissioner in the NCAA. Tom Hansen continues to run the conference like it's 1975. We have the worst television contracts (#9 Oregon is the only top-25 team not on TV this week), we have the worst bowl tie-ins (#2 Holiday bowl vs #3 or 4 Big XII, that's a joke), and we are losing money with no exposure and Hansen seems to love the fact that USC is the mouth that feeds us and he won't change anything. He has said that the conference will never expand and that if the NCAA ever does playoffs, that the Pac-10 would not participate. If that happens I can't imagine he would stay. I can't believe he's still here honestly. To not have a top-10 team on television is a travesty.

[FancyFootball44]

There’s no doubt about it that there’s a USC bias. They had no business being #1 in the polls most of this season. JDB had no business being in the Heisman Watch.
I hope California kicks their fanny but what do you want to bet, they remain in the top 15 even if they do?

DaddyDuck, who do you think would win in a game against Stanford and AppState?
I know it’s an “inter-conference rivalry” and all, but Stanford won ONE game last year whereas AppState was their division champion. I also give Michigan *some* slack because it was the season opener but 6 games in USC should have killed Stanford.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by FancyFootball44

There’s no doubt about it that there’s a USC bias. They had no business being #1 in the polls most of this season. JDB had no business being in the Heisman Watch.
I hope California kicks their fanny but what do you want to bet, they remain in the top 15 even if they do?

DaddyDuck, who do you think would win in a game against Stanford and AppState?
I know it’s an “inter-conference rivalry” and all, but Stanford won ONE game last year whereas AppState was their division champion. I also give Michigan *some* slack because it was the season opener but 6 games in USC should have killed Stanford.

QFT

... and I see your point Eksynyt, Hansen is really handcuffing this conference. The funny thing is that this is small potatoes in comparison to the gross mismanagement and blatant negligence of the Pac 10, if this is not nipped in the bud, the Pac 10 will lose what little integrity it has left.

[Daddy Duck]

Originally Posted by FancyFootball44

There’s no doubt about it that there’s a USC bias. They had no business being #1 in the polls most of this season. JDB had no business being in the Heisman Watch.
I hope California kicks their fanny but what do you want to bet, they remain in the top 15 even if they do?

DaddyDuck, who do you think would win in a game against Stanford and AppState?
I know it’s an “inter-conference rivalry” and all, but Stanford won ONE game last year whereas AppState was their division champion. I also give Michigan *some* slack because it was the season opener but 6 games in USC should have killed Stanford.

I think Stanford would beat App. State 9 out of 10 times. Like i said 3 weeks ago on the Notre Dame thread at Sports Nation, Stanford has drasticly improved from last year. They whooped a San Jose State team that almost beat an undefeated Boise State team last year, they scored 31 points against Oregon in one quarter and have now beaten USC. App. State on the other hand lost a game a few weeks back to Wofford.

[kybubba]

They are great athletes and can do things I could never dream of. But why all of this interest in Hawaii football? I have to wonder if the broadcasters are just building the team so more people will go and more soda pop, shirts, and popcorn will be sold and thus more advertising. It is painful to say, but that program cannot attract money because of the vast distance between there and the mainland. Simple, but a fact. I suggest they get a huge intermural program amongst all of the schools out there and hype it like big time ball. They might attract noteworthy players if the players knew they would at least be seen by NFL scouts. And, the programs could make a bit of money and build school spirit and such. Whew. Such high level thinking hurts.

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