West Virginia overrated???

[Mountaineer]

They're ranked pretty high but most national analysts see that as a result of a weak schedule. One of the easiest routes to 12-0 amongst the top teams in the country.

I think they're legit with one of the best offenses in the country and deserve the high rankings.

Thoughts?

[Sooners&Noles]

not sure if overrated, but definately have a shot at the NC. with only one game a challenge, louisville, they have a walk to an undefeated season.

[CTNelson]

I wouldn't say they are overrated but I would say they will be mostly untested this season. Obviously the Louisville game is HUGE but they could get tripped up on the road vs. Mississippi State or Pittsburgh but they will be favored against both.

Basically in a year where no team stands out and everybody has holes I think WV is ranked right about where they should be as they are a good solid team albeit one with a relatively easy schedule.

[Ronnie Powlus]

Originally Posted by CTNelson

I wouldn't say they are overrated but I would say they will be mostly untested this season. Obviously the Louisville game is HUGE but they could get tripped up on the road vs. Mississippi State or Pittsburgh but they will be favored against both.

Basically in a year where no team stands out and everybody has holes I think WV is ranked right about where they should be as they are a good solid team albeit one with a relatively easy schedule.

gonna be interesting to see where they fall if WV runs the table and USC, ND, and OSU all have one loss.

[tbell ncsu]

waaaaay overrated. the big least really needs to be stripped of their bcs eligibility. that's a sad, sad football conference.

[CTNelson]

Originally Posted by tbell ncsu

waaaaay overrated. the big least really needs to be stripped of their bcs eligibility. that's a sad, sad football conference.

Interesting take on things since a mid-level South Florida Bulls team from that "sad, sad football conference" was able to hang with the Wolfpack in a bowl game last year only losing 14-0. Seems like a competitive game to me.

You are vastly underrating the Big East. They also only have 8 teams when compared to 10-12 for most other conferences. If you wanted to argue they should lose their BCS eligibility for that reason I'd be right there with you.

[tbell ncsu]

they didn't hang with us. did you watch the game? we were blowing them out, and then put in the scrub squad... and usf still couldn't score on us.

Cincinnati - last year, their first in the big east, 4-7 (2-5)
Connecticut - recently joined div-1a... two years ago? 5-6 (2-5)
Louisville - here's a good team who have recently come into success. 9-3 (5-2)
Pittsburgh - a middle tier team. 5-6 (4-3)
Rutgers - well, they have a preseason all-american. 7-5 (4-3)
Syracuse - i actually think duke would beat 'cuse. hahaha! 1-10 (0-7)
USF - another decent team 6-6 (4-3)
West Virginia - "ooover raaatted! clap-clap, clap-clap-clap!" 11-1 (7-0)

just look at who louisville and west virginia have to beat. if you're a hurricanes fan, you should know more than me just how much the big east sucks in terms of football. west virginia couldn't dream of winning that conference until y'all and va tech left. now, west virginia is all of a sudden in the top 10. craziness! look at those records. just 3 of the 8 teams have winning records. people criticize some programs for playing a cupcake ooc schedule, but west virginia has a cupcake conference schedule too.

big least's '05-'06 bowl record: 1-3

[CTNelson]

I hope your kidding as If your going to call a 14-0 game a blowout then we are on two different planets. They had more first downs and 5 less yards then you and turned it over 3 times to your one including an interception in the endzone. Sorry to say that does not qualify as a blowout.

[tbell ncsu]

well, when the scrubs start to enter the game in the 2nd quarter, i'd consider that a blowout performance.

and iirc, we had a scrub at qb playing the entire game. but it's not like the other qb's were any better. man, i hope we get our qb issues resolved this upcoming season.

[CTNelson]

Originally Posted by tbell ncsu

Cincinnati - last year, their first in the big east, 4-7 (2-5)
Connecticut - recently joined div-1a... two years ago? 5-6 (2-5)
Louisville - here's a good team who have recently come into success. 9-3 (5-2)
Pittsburgh - a middle tier team. 5-6 (4-3)
Rutgers - well, they have a preseason all-american. 7-5 (4-3)
Syracuse - i actually think duke would beat 'cuse. hahaha! 1-10 (0-7)
USF - another decent team 6-6 (4-3)
West Virginia - "ooover raaatted! clap-clap, clap-clap-clap!" 11-1 (7-0)

just look at who louisville and west virginia have to beat. if you're a hurricanes fan, you should know more than me just how much the big east sucks in terms of football. west virginia couldn't dream of winning that conference until y'all and va tech left. now, west virginia is all of a sudden in the top 10. craziness! look at those records. just 3 of the 8 teams have winning records. people criticize some programs for playing a cupcake ooc schedule, but west virginia has a cupcake conference schedule too.

big least's '05-'06 bowl record: 1-3

I never said the conference was good I said you vastly underrate them. Being a small conference the Big East has always been judged by how good its TOP teams perform and this years top teams should be pretty good. Also that West Viginia team you think is so overrated this year beat SEC power Georgia at the end of last season so how do you explain that.

Yes me being a Hurricane fan I know just how much unjusitfied crap the Big East takes. By no means is the Big East one of the better conferences out there but they are never as bad as people like you make them out to be. The Big East is just like any conference ~25% of the teams are good ~50% are average and ~25% are bad. Their mid-level teams are never usually as good as other conferences mid-level teams but they aren't nearly as bad as most people seem to think.

Originally Posted by tbell ncsu

well, when the scrubs start to enter the game in the 2nd quarter, i'd consider that a blowout performance.

So you would call a game that is 7-0 with a minute to go in the 2nd a blowout? I'll just quit now and say our definitions of a blowout (especially a college blowout) are vastly different.

[AlabamaTide]

Hello guys. New to the boards and Im glad to be hear. WV is very explosive offensively. The key is can the defense improve? I would say they should only get better.
Also they put up 38 points on Georgia in the bowl game, so I would say they could play with anyone.

[tbell ncsu]

fine, i withdraw my "blowout" comment. i clearly exaggerated. still, we were beating usf pretty easily.

as for west virginia's win over the georgia, i've got nothing. the mountaineers straight outplayed the dawgs in that game. it was a tremendous upset. that still doesn't justify a top 10 ranking for west virigina, even for preseason.

my problem with the big east keeping their bcs bowl is that the league competition sucks. even you admitted that west virginia will be untested this season. does an untested team deserve to play in the national title game over a team who plays a tougher schedule, but has one more loss? i don't think so.

[Eksynyt]

Big East is definitely not the outstanding conference it once was, but there should still be BCS considerations, I feel like the MWC and the good WAC teams are hugely underrated and rarely get respect.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Eksynyt

Big East is definitely not the outstanding conference it once was, but there should still be BCS considerations, I feel like the MWC and the good WAC teams are hugely underrated and rarely get respect.

I agree, if you take out Louisville and WV the Big East is fodder. The MWC and especially the MAC have made huge strides over the last 3 seasons and play much much more difficult schedules. WV schedule is a complete and utter joke. Feel free to add a couple JC schools why don't you.

[Eksynyt]

Speaking of easy schedules, if the Oregon State Beavers start to get cocky this year, it is meaningless. They have one of the easiest schedules in the nation. All their tough games are at home. Their toughest road game is in week 2 at Boise State.