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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Titans are being overlooked pt. 2 (2009)
So it looks like very few people around here see the Titans making the playoffs this year. I figured I would recreate the thread I started last year that brought on many spirited posts. Unfortunately, it got closed, and people were banned due to so many people gettin really emo, and calling people names and such. The Titans went 13-4 last year after I said people were overlooking them before the season by not having them as even a wild card team. Last year I was right, anyone care to challenge my opinion of my Titans? Come on in and tell me why they won't make the playoffs this year. I'm curious, cuz I feel there is every reason to expect them to be better than they were last year, although the schedule is tougher this year. Bring on that hate from last year, and watch me serve you crow again! lol
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You get lucky every once and a while with a team starting an old veteran QB. I honestly don't believe either Warner nor Collins will perform like they did last season and I'll be very surprised if both of them do. I think age will catch up to them just as it did with Favre last season, as a matter of fact I'd throw Favre in there with Warner and Collins. When it comes to QB you usually get to a point where you sputter a bit, maybe get a few good spurts of brilliance and then burn out again. Titans have also lost their best defensive player in Haynesworth and that will be a HUGE hole to fill for them since he swallowed two offensive linemen at the line of scrimmage. I see the Titans defense declining compared to last season because they won't enjoy as much pass rush and their offense cooling off because of Collins potentially inconsistent play, Chris Johnson hasn't looked like he did last season (could change in the regular season) and I still think they have issues at WR depth (that's why they're looking into Matt Jones). If anything I really really like the Titans depth at TE and if they constantly run 2 TE sets I think they can succeed with a running game to boot (like what the Cowboys are likely to do this season too).
I don't think they are going to get into the playoffs because of the other talent in the AFC. If you look at the teams that will contend for spots you have: Pittsburgh Steelers Baltimore Ravens New England Patriots Miami Dolphins (if they can continue their improvement) Indianapolis Colts Houston Texans Tennessee Titans San Diego Chargers So on that alone you have 4 spots taken by the division winners. Titans have to compete with IMO two other really good teams for the division title and if they don't win it they've got 3 other teams that are up there with them to contend for the wild card. Can they make the playoffs, yeah I think they have a shot. But do I think they will? No I don't because I think the Patriots and the Ravens are going to beat them out and if Houston finally shows up the Titans are gonna have a problem if they can't win the division.
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Ok. Did you know that Collins hired a personal trainer over the offseason for the first time in his career, lost 10 lbs, and is in far better condition than last year? Then you have KVB healthy which wasnt the case last year. Yes losing Haynesworth hurts, but I don't think most people realize the depth and talent they currently have at DT. I might add they smashed the Steelers without Haynesworth in the biggest regular season game in the AFC last season.
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When it came down to it the Titans couldn't beat a rookie QB led Ravens. It doesn't matter how much depth or talent you have at DT because the drop off from Haynesworth to the next best guy is pretty darn significant. You underestimate what a player like Haynesworth is actually worth to a defense because w/o his pass rush the Titans DTs are now more clog the middle instead of Hayneworth penetrating for pressure. A dip in pass rush means more pressure on your secondary which exposes weak points and leads to more passing yardage. I honestly don't think Collins will be the one that leads them far this season. It doesn't matter if he's in better shape this season compared to last, I'm more worried about him throwing INTs and fumbling the ball because that's what he's going to do. I honestly don't think he'll have as potent a running game to lean on this season b/c Chris Johnson's productivity worries me due to defenses knowing what he can do now. I like that he has some big targets to throw to this season but I think that mistakes w/ INTs and fumbles will be the downfall of Collins this season, if he fails. Collins could very well be stellar this season but chances are that he's not nearly as good as he was last season, and he wasn't all that amazing last season either (12 TDs 7 INTs, 80.2 passer rating, 5 fumbles).
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I mean any team can come out of left field and do really well for one season if two or three weak points play above expectation. If those weak points of the Titans play above expectations (Collins, DLine, WR corps) they can very well make the playoffs, I just think one or two of those will fail.
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Here's what certain Titans fans were saying about Haynesworth last year pt. 1:
"Everyone has their opinion, but I have to say I've never seen a DT that could dominate like Haynesworth. EVER! Seriously." "I don't know how anyone that says Albert Haynesworth isn't the best DT in the league could be taken seriously. Nobody else is even close!" "Haynesworth makes the D-line of the Titans, not the other way around." "Albert Haynesworth could line up by himself on the D-line and be one of the best in the league." Its funny how things change. 'Yes losing Haynesworth hurts, but I don't think most people realize the depth and talent they currently have at DT."
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"Everyone has their opinion, but I have to say I've never seen a DT that could dominate like Haynesworth. EVER! Seriously."
I think this quote was by me, and I still feel that way. "I don't know how anyone that says Albert Haynesworth isn't the best DT in the league could be taken seriously. Nobody else is even close!" This was me too, and again my opinion has not changed. Its funny how things change. 'Yes losing Haynesworth hurts, but I don't think most people realize the depth and talent they currently have at DT." How is that changed? I admitted that it hurts to lose the best DT in football, and I don't think most people realize how good the Titans are at DT even without him. Where did my opinion change? If had said that his replacement as starter is as good as he was you would have a point, but I made no such claim. So what sre you talkin about?
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Hey I remember this! ha, no Titans don't make playoffs this year due to Kerry Collins and lack of pass D. 0-2 isn't helping any case you're building especially losing to a division rival who were coming off a horrific loss last week. You can't win if your allowing about 400 yds passing a week and have your QB literally drop the ball to lose a game. My prediction 8-8 for Titans.
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Yeah 0-2 is not good. Good team, bad start. It's show and prove time for the Titans. We'll see what they got in New York next Sunday. I like their chances, so long as Rex Ryan allows Chris Johnson to play the whole game. lol (but seriously) Should be a very good, physical game. Go Titans!
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The Jets are for real, I think the Titans will start out the season 0-3 and possibly 1-4 going into week 6. The only assumable win is @ Jax and that will probably be another AFC South slugfest.
The Titans need to not overlook their opponents because it can get much worse than 0-2.
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I agree. The Jets are a damn good team, and the Titans must play very well over the next few weeks to not fall too far behind. Hopefully, they will.
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Jets look for real but the supposed experts may have overrated both Houston and New England. |
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