Cleveland/Dallas - Page 2

Browns17 · 09-08-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose

Haynesworth is probably the best DT in the game... dude was in the defensive player of the year talk last year and wasn't even healthy. You are exactly right on Rodgers... the only thing that has kept him in the NFL is his size, he takes up blockers just by standing up. If you have bad arse LBs behind him or a great DE he is a compliment if not you will see just how overrated he is.

Haynesworth is not the best in the league but is Top 5. The Browns actually have really good linebackers, the only thing that they have on defense actually other than Sean Jones.

K2 4MVP22 · 09-08-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose

that defensive line was getting owned by our O-line, I am not sure that our O-line is that good or those guys (Rogers) are just overrated. Edwards' butterfingers throughout the game didn't help yalls cause with the shortage on WRs. He looked like Crap. KWII was a beast and owned our defense.

I thought the officiating was aweful... I am usually the last to complain but the calls were extremely one sided in favor of the Browns. The score should have been 42-3. total BS calls kept the Brown's TD drive alive on 2 failed 3rd conversions. Cleveland gets away with a helmet to helmet that left Romo with stiches and T.O gets a 31 yard 1st catch negated for knocking the defenders hands off of him.

Cleveland may not be as good as everyone thinks this year... I know that offense is better than they showed due to injuries, but that defense is extremely suspect.

I predict Steelers ownage next week... they probably hand it to them worse than the Cowboys did.

First, Dallas won! So how are the calls one sided? Helmet to helmet has that name for a reason. It's not like(...can't recall who hit Romo) led with his helmet he had his arms extended, and it was as soon as Romo got rid of the ball. Seriously, I would call the Pollard hit dirty before that one. So, go back to Dallas, and cry that your oh so beautiful QB got stitches on his chiny chin chin. It's football this is why I watch it. It's not like his jaw is dislocated or he got his teeth knocked out. The dude got up and played the next play so seriously do you want every defensive player to wear pillows so things like that don't happen. IT'S FOOTBALL!!! Save that for the softies.

Goose · 09-08-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by K2 4MVP22

First, Dallas won! So how are the calls one sided? Helmet to helmet has that name for a reason. It's not like(...can't recall who hit Romo) led with his helmet he had his arms extended, and it was as soon as Romo got rid of the ball. Seriously, I would call the Pollard hit dirty before that one. So, go back to Dallas, and cry that your oh so beautiful QB got stitches on his chiny chin chin. It's football this is why I watch it. It's not like his jaw is dislocated or he got his teeth knocked out. The dude got up and played the next play so seriously do you want every defensive player to wear pillows so things like that don't happen. IT'S FOOTBALL!!! Save that for the softies.

Last I checked you go slaming your helmet into the QBs face mask it's considered a Helmet to Helmet hit... maybe I am wrong here.

And we won despite the calls, I can't say anything about it because we won?

The Pollard hit was dirty never denied it

And when did I claim Romo was a He-man (even though he is) for playing through a chin injury. I mention it to show that he caught a helmet in the grill. Which he deny happened.

Here are the points I made
Cowboys played well
Browns played bad
Officials sucked
Dallas won

I don't see what you are argueing here

K2 4MVP22 · 09-08-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Browns17

Haynesworth is not the best in the league but is Top 5. The Browns actually have really good linebackers, the only thing that they have on defense actually other than Sean Jones.

Don't start that again.

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Originally Posted by Browns17

1. i said prob OAK
2. An inexperienced QB that has absoluely terrible WRs that's why. They'll be average at best

It's a good thing Russell was out last season. He wasn't tossed into the fire. Their WR's aren't absolutely terrible either. Sure Walker get's injured alot, but it was only in 06 that he had a 1,000 yard season. He used to be at the top of the league not to long ago. Curry isn't that bad either, it's not like he can't score. Plus, with McFadden in the back field they are going to pass to him ALOT. They haven't played so there shouldn't even be a probably yet.

K2 4MVP22 · 09-08-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose

Last I checked you go slaming your helmet into the QBs face mask it's considered a Helmet to Helmet hit... maybe I am wrong here.

And we won despite the calls, I can't say anything about it because we won?

The Pollard hit was dirty never denied it

And when did I claim Romo was a He-man (even though he is) for playing through a chin injury. I mention it to show that he caught a helmet in the grill. Which he deny happened.

Here are the points I made
Cowboys played well
Browns played bad
Officials sucked
Dallas won

I don't see what you are argueing here

Seriously watch the replays. The guy's helmet just happened to hit his CHIN STRAP! He didn't go rushing in diving head first arms down like a bull at Romo. Plus, seriously the NFL reviewed the hit and determined it was LEGAL! Pollard got thrown to the ground and bear crawled to the QB to make a play, no intention to take Brady out for the season or you would have actually seen Brady's knee snap much like McGahee's in the NC game in 02. I'm just sick of people babying QB's.

Browns17 · 09-08-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by K2 4MVP22

Don't start that again.

It's a good thing Russell was out last season. He wasn't tossed into the fire. Their WR's aren't absolutely terrible either. Sure Walker get's injured alot, but it was only in 06 that he had a 1,000 yard season. He used to be at the top of the league not to long ago. Curry isn't that bad either, it's not like he can't score. Plus, with McFadden in the back field they are going to pass to him ALOT. They haven't played so there shouldn't even be a probably yet.

Walker is not the same as he was in '06, he's messed up after being jumped in LV and really isn't into the NFL anymore hints why he tried paying back his contract money so he can retire. Curry is an above average WR and u need more than that with an inexperienced QB regardless. In my opinion they have the worst WR core in the NFL.

K2 4MVP22 · 09-08-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Browns17

Walker is not the same as he was in '06, he's messed up after being jumped in LV and really isn't into the NFL anymore hints why he tried paying back his contract money so he can retire. Curry is an above average WR and u need more than that with an inexperienced QB regardless. In my opinion they have the worst WR core in the NFL.

No the Browns have the worst WR core in the NFL with all the injuries. I just gave you something else besides those 2 recievers. Maybe a recieveing back in McFadden when they have already put it out there that he is going to get passed to alot. Also, Walker is playing still or did I just make that up?

Goose · 09-08-2008, 09:50 PM

You both wrong Jax, Tenn, and Seattle are much worse

K2 4MVP22 · 09-08-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose

You both wrong Jax, Tenn, and Seattle are much worse

Last time I checked I didn't say anyone was worse(except a joke about the Browns).

nugget maxwell · 09-08-2008, 10:34 PM

Rogers wasn't a totally horrible pick, but just him alone is what Cleveland was hoping to go with... Think Rogers just looked amazing in being compared to the team mates beside him in Detroit... any of us could look good and stand out on the Lions defensive line. Doesn't mean Rogers is gonna get you to the playoffs.

K2 4MVP22 · 09-08-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nugget maxwell

Rogers wasn't a totally horrible pick, but just him alone is what Cleveland was hoping to go with... Think Rogers just looked amazing in being compared to the team mates beside him in Detroit... any of us could look good and stand out on the Lions defensive line. Doesn't mean Rogers is gonna get you to the playoffs.

Did someone say that?

Browns17 · 09-08-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by K2 4MVP22

No the Browns have the worst WR core in the NFL with all the injuries. I just gave you something else besides those 2 recievers. Maybe a recieveing back in McFadden when they have already put it out there that he is going to get passed to alot. Also, Walker is playing still or did I just make that up?

Walker is still playing but he's not going to be good. I've been watching this OAK game and they are doing nothing but proving my point & they havnt passed to D-Mac once.

nugget maxwell · 09-08-2008, 10:55 PM

Nobody said that about Cleveland literally, but it was pretty widely accepted that the Browns should make the playoffs. I didn't think they would at first, but with having New England out they might make that last playoff spot. Still at 9-7 by the end.

Canadian Speed · 09-09-2008, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Goose

You both wrong Jax, Tenn, and Seattle are much worse

Not top highjack the thread, but Seattle's WRs, in my eyes are under rated. That being said, had the entire team for the Browns shown up (injuries and what not) we could have seen a better game. I'm sure they'll pick it up next week...

Troy McClure · 09-09-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Browns17

The Browns actually have really good linebackers, the only thing that they have on defense actually other than Sean Jones.

The linebackers are the weakest part of the entire team. That unit is terrible. Wimbley is the only one that is pretty good, but even he is invisible on most plays because teams can double team him without worrying about anyone else.

On the other side, they're starting a 7th round pick who did nothing on Sunday and shouldn't be playing. Their inside linebackers are slow, can't get to the QB, and do nothing to stop the running game.

If I was coach, I'd change this defense to a 4-3. Move Wimbley to DE. At least that way, I can reduce the responsibilities of those crappy linebackers.

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09-08-2008, 09:50 PM	#23 (permalink)
Goose President and CEO of FBB Frogger 2004 Champion! Bowling Champion! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fort Worth Age: 31 Posts: 2,423 vCash: 3859 NFL Team: Dallas Cowboys NCAA Team: Texas A&M Aggies	You both wrong Jax, Tenn, and Seattle are much worse

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nugget maxwell mississippi mud Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 21 Posts: 166 vCash: 500 NFL Team: Pittsburgh Steelers NCAA Team: Slippery Rock University The Rock	Rogers wasn't a totally horrible pick, but just him alone is what Cleveland was hoping to go with... Think Rogers just looked amazing in being compared to the team mates beside him in Detroit... any of us could look good and stand out on the Lions defensive line. Doesn't mean Rogers is gonna get you to the playoffs.

09-08-2008, 10:55 PM	#28 (permalink)
nugget maxwell mississippi mud Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 21 Posts: 166 vCash: 500 NFL Team: Pittsburgh Steelers NCAA Team: Slippery Rock University The Rock	Nobody said that about Cleveland literally, but it was pretty widely accepted that the Browns should make the playoffs. I didn't think they would at first, but with having New England out they might make that last playoff spot. Still at 9-7 by the end.