Browns wins 2008-2009 - Page 2

Kaeotik · 08-17-2008, 10:53 PM

Looking over their schedule, I think they will go 8-8. Maybe 9-7.

MesaRunner · 08-18-2008, 08:16 PM

Well Browns fans, now what? You criticized Vy and the Titans offense for looking bad in the Raiders game.

The Browns look absolutely horrible. At least our defense still holds up and we can run the ball.... The Browns are just all around pathetic.

K2 4MVP22 · 08-18-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MesaRunner

Well Browns fans, now what? You criticized Vy and the Titans offense for looking bad in the Raiders game.

The Browns look absolutely horrible. At least our defense still holds up and we can run the ball.... The Browns are just all around pathetic.

Hey Mesa why don't don't you check your sources cause neither Browns or I said anything about how the Titans looked against the Raiders. Whether anyone wants to admit it, the Raiders are a very talented team they are my sleeper team. Same thing goes for Vince Young. I am a Vince Young/Texas fan and I did not criticize anything about him or the Titans. You put words in Browns fans mouths, when we just disagreed with your opinion, that you guys think the Titans are the cream of the crop. No one has said the Browns are Super Bowl contenders. We still need to mesh on defense. Thank you for your clueless post. Just a hater, and you always will be.

MesaRunner · 08-18-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by K2 4MVP22

Hey Mesa why don't don't you check your sources cause neither Browns or I said anything about how the Titans looked against the Raiders. Whether anyone wants to admit it, the Raiders are a very talented team they are my sleeper team. Same thing goes for Vince Young. I am a Vince Young/Texas fan and I did not criticize anything about him or the Titans. You put words in Browns fans mouths, when we just disagreed with your opinion, that you guys think the Titans are the cream of the crop. No one has said the Browns are Super Bowl contenders. We still need to mesh on defense. Thank you for your clueless post. Just a hater, and you always will be.

Not a hater, just making you eat what you made me eat. You called the Titans an average team and that they would be fighting the Texans for the bottom of the division....

The Browns look like a high school team.....

It's ok though, I don't believe anything I posted. I was just trying to get back at you guys for taking things as fact from a preseason game....

K2 4MVP22 · 08-18-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MesaRunner

Not a hater, just making you eat what you made me eat. You called the Titans an average team and that they would be fighting the Texans for the bottom of the division....

The Browns look like a high school team.....

It's ok though, I don't believe anything I posted. I was just trying to get back at you guys for taking things as fact from a preseason game....

Actually BigDaddy said they would battle for third. I just said they are an average in a competitive division. Average teams come out of nowhere and win Super Bowls.

Browns17 · 08-18-2008, 10:36 PM

The Browns did look as bad as I've ever seen them, but it's preseason so I'm not worried at all about it. Poor D.A., none of our backups that started could catch a ball, except K2, but he still had a drop. Our offense made D.A. look bad, and with Quinn doing good against their backups, I'm afraid alot of Browns fans will be calling for Quinn now more than ever.

klingsor · 08-19-2008, 09:08 AM

Giants' fan here.

Don't forget how terrible the Giants looked in the first two REGULAR season games last year.

Everything that could go wrong in the first quarter, did go wrong. It happens.

BUT ,FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GET RID OF THOSE ABOMINABLE BROWN PANTS.

Kaeotik · 08-19-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by klingsor

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GET RID OF THOSE ABOMINABLE BROWN PANTS.

Co-sign.

K2 4MVP22 · 08-19-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by klingsor

BUT ,FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GET RID OF THOSE ABOMINABLE BROWN PANTS.

Change of pace. I liked them, at least they fit our name.

nugget maxwell · 08-20-2008, 04:59 PM

Cleveland offense has a whole team of one season wonders, who have proven nothing yet... in a league that copies each other and catches up easily, the browns won't sneak up and do the same as last season. and as for the defense, it will still be towards the bottom of the NFL... browns will go 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs, steelers will win the AFC north again and will be the only team from the division to make the playoffs.

MesaRunner · 08-20-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nugget maxwell

Cleveland offense has a whole team of one season wonders, who have proven nothing yet... in a league that copies each other and catches up easily, the browns won't sneak up and do the same as last season. and as for the defense, it will still be towards the bottom of the NFL... browns will go 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs, steelers will win the AFC north again and will be the only team from the division to make the playoffs.

I agree.

K2 4MVP22 · 08-20-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nugget maxwell

Cleveland offense has a whole team of one season wonders, who have proven nothing yet... in a league that copies each other and catches up easily, the browns won't sneak up and do the same as last season. and as for the defense, it will still be towards the bottom of the NFL... browns will go 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs, steelers will win the AFC north again and will be the only team from the division to make the playoffs.

Says the Steelers fan. I could agree with everything you say because of the schedule we play, but when you talk about the offense are you kidding me? Yes, DA could be a one season wonder, but how could you say that about Winslow who has been at the top of the league the past 2 years in receptions not just with TE but also WR. Edwards showed last season his big play capability if someone could just get him the ball. Stallworth has proven himself with his teams. A rookie OL going to the Pro Bowl isn't a fluke, same with a Pro Bowl guard that should have been there last season instead of Ogden. So Idk where you get that the whole offense is one season wonders. The defense will be towards the bottom of the league for one more season, but after that watch out.

Browns17 · 08-20-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nugget maxwell

Cleveland offense has a whole team of one season wonders, who have proven nothing yet... in a league that copies each other and catches up easily, the browns won't sneak up and do the same as last season. and as for the defense, it will still be towards the bottom of the NFL... browns will go 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs, steelers will win the AFC north again and will be the only team from the division to make the playoffs.

haha I mean I know your a Steelers fan, but are u serious? Our offense is and will be one of the best in the league for a long time. Our defense is still learning to gel and gain experience due to it being mostly inexperienced with the exception of McGinest and Andra Davis. Pittsburgh has a good offense, but bad O-line will keep it from being as good as it could be. Their defense is good but won't be as good as it was the past few years. Browns and Steelers are gonna be the Top in the AFC North with Cleveland #1.

MesaRunner · 08-20-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Browns17

haha I mean I know your a Steelers fan, but are u serious? Our offense is and will be one of the best in the league for a long time. Our defense is still learning to gel and gain experience due to it being mostly inexperienced with the exception of McGinest and Andra Davis. Pittsburgh has a good offense, but bad O-line will keep it from being as good as it could be. Their defense is good but won't be as good as it was the past few years. Browns and Steelers are gonna be the Top in the AFC North with Cleveland #1.

I'd love to hear some reasoning for this one....

K2 4MVP22 · 08-20-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MesaRunner

I'd love to hear some reasoning for this one....

Mostly the names, but think about it. Shaun Rogers Pro Bowl, Corey Williams he wasn't franchised for nothing. Sean Jones is one of the better safties in the league. Brodney Pool just needs a little bit more experience. Wright and McDonald are both second year players, what can you expect in this league with that. Wimbley is a great pass rusher in the league and will do anything to prove he could be the best in the league. Jackson is an excellent MLB. Give him a couple years and he'll be a standout. Davis, and McGinest are on their way out. We just need solid talent to fill those positions, not fourth round could be's(even though I hope for the best out of Beau Bell).

*My bad, I just read what you were highlighting. This is my response about the Browns D though. Haha.

08-17-2008, 10:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
Kaeotik Starter Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 119 vCash: 500 NFL Team: Tennessee Titans NCAA Team: West Virginia Mountaineers	Looking over their schedule, I think they will go 8-8. Maybe 9-7. __________________

08-18-2008, 10:36 PM	#21 (permalink)
Browns17 Browns 08' Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cleveland, OH Age: 18 Posts: 407 vCash: 2000 NFL Team: Cleveland Browns NCAA Team: Akron Zips	The Browns did look as bad as I've ever seen them, but it's preseason so I'm not worried at all about it. Poor D.A., none of our backups that started could catch a ball, except K2, but he still had a drop. Our offense made D.A. look bad, and with Quinn doing good against their backups, I'm afraid alot of Browns fans will be calling for Quinn now more than ever. __________________ Browns '08

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MesaRunner CHRIS JOHNSON! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 564 vCash: 250 NFL Team: Tennessee Titans NCAA Team: Oregon Ducks	Well Browns fans, now what? You criticized Vy and the Titans offense for looking bad in the Raiders game. The Browns look absolutely horrible. At least our defense still holds up and we can run the ball.... The Browns are just all around pathetic.

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nugget maxwell mississippi mud Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 21 Posts: 166 vCash: 500 NFL Team: Pittsburgh Steelers NCAA Team: Slippery Rock University The Rock	Cleveland offense has a whole team of one season wonders, who have proven nothing yet... in a league that copies each other and catches up easily, the browns won't sneak up and do the same as last season. and as for the defense, it will still be towards the bottom of the NFL... browns will go 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs, steelers will win the AFC north again and will be the only team from the division to make the playoffs.