Browns to win AFC North in 08!! - Page 2

K2 4MVP22 · 03-07-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Troy McClure

Hey, who knows. Most people had the Browns at 5-11 last year. Before the season started, no one thought the Bengals and Ravens would lose that many.

Look at it this way, of the teams in this division, only the Browns have done anything to get better.

Exactly.

K2 4MVP22 · 03-07-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MesaRunner

Most people had the Titans at 5-11 last year too. Even this site did.

Who does Tenn. play next year? I can't find a single thing about who they play. Mesa your obviously a Titans fan, let me know who they play.

MesaRunner · 03-08-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by K2 4MVP22

Who does Tenn. play next year? I can't find a single thing about who they play. Mesa your obviously a Titans fan, let me know who they play.

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BuckthemWooserines · 03-12-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MesaRunner

Ok, we can carry the bet through to next year. If the Titans win, I get to give you an avatar that you HAVE to use until the start of the next season and vice-versa.

Deal?

Oh and believe me, you will have a nice avatar.

Plus, your team would not last 5 games in our division or with our schedule last year....

We had the third toughest schedule and the best win % of any division in the HISTORY of the NFL.

Sorry, been on hiatous, its a deal!!!!!!!! Lets get ready tooo rrruuuummmmmbbbbllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllle eeee!!! The Browns have one of the toughest schedules ever this year...

ZackofSteel · 03-27-2008, 02:54 AM

Sorry, but the Steelers will be sweeping the Browns yet again, next year. Signing a bunch of guys doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win the division. The Steelers NEVER sign anyone big in FA. They build through the draft; always have.

Steelers repeat in '08. Book it.

K2 4MVP22 · 03-27-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackofSteel

Sorry, but the Steelers will be sweeping the Browns yet again, next year. Signing a bunch of guys doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win the division. The Steelers NEVER sign anyone big in FA. They build through the draft; always have.

Steelers repeat in '08. Book it.

We'll see.

ZackofSteel · 03-27-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by K2 4MVP22

We'll see.

That we shall.

Browns17 · 03-28-2008, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ZackofSteel

Sorry, but the Steelers will be sweeping the Browns yet again, next year. Signing a bunch of guys doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win the division. The Steelers NEVER sign anyone big in FA. They build through the draft; always have.

Steelers repeat in '08. Book it.

Yea you built through the draft with Cowher, your picks last year, eh not so good. Woodly was your best one and so far, he's not that good. The Browns did build through the draft, they just needed some veterans in order to become more successful.

The Steelers o-line got destroyed last year with Faneca, now they loose him and add no one except Hartwig who isn't great. Your line is going to get eaten up by even the worst D-Lines.

Browns & Steelers split in '08...Book It

BigdaddyQH · 03-30-2008, 12:33 PM

Look who is talking about the draft. Cleveland totally wasted a #1 last year taking the pretty boy from ND who will never start a game at Cleveland unless there is an injury. It also cost them their #1 for this year. Talk about a totally stupid and inept move. Cleveland should challenge in the AFC North, but that is the AFC North, where no team can come close to the likes of New England, Indy, or San Diego.

Troy McClure · 03-30-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

Look who is talking about the draft. Cleveland totally wasted a #1 last year taking the pretty boy from ND who will never start a game at Cleveland unless there is an injury. It also cost them their #1 for this year. Talk about a totally stupid and inept move.

This is BS. Not one person on this planet thought Derek Anderson would do what he did this season. Not you; not anybody.

The Browns were seen as having the worst QB situation in the league at this time last year. It was a great move to get a quality QB at the #22 pick and get him signed to a deal that costs the team very little. The team needed a QB of the future, and Savage got one. How is that stupid?

BigdaddyQH · 03-30-2008, 01:00 PM

First, they did not get a quality QB. Next, they are now stuck with two QB's with big salaries. Now one is going to have to go, and soon. If it is the pretty boy from Nutered Dame, Cleveland may get a mid to low round draft pick for him. So Cleveland managed to give away a 1st round pick for a lower round pick. That really makes sense.

Many people questioned this move when it was made. Most people that I know (who know a lot more about football than you do) thought that this move was a gamble at best. Now we know that the gamble failed.

Troy McClure · 03-30-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

First, they did not get a quality QB.

Oh Christ, here we go. I love these couch potato scouting reports. You've never seen him play a down in the NFL, but you know all about him, right?

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

Next, they are now stuck with two QB's with big salaries.

You might want to go check out what these guys are getting paid. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Quinn isn't on a big salary at all. As a backup, he's no impact on the cap at all since his deal is mostly based on incentives. Even combined, Quinn and Anderson are costing the Browns less of a cap hit than many teams pay for their starter.

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Now one is going to have to go, and soon.

Again, this is not true. Because of these two affordable deals, the Browns can sit and wait until this time next year to trade one. They have no need to make a decision any time soon.

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

If it is the pretty boy from Nutered Dame, Cleveland may get a mid to low round draft pick for him. So Cleveland managed to give away a 1st round pick for a lower round pick. That really makes sense.

Based on his sweet contract, I disgree with your evaluation of Quinn's return, but either way, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter what they get in return. The Browns love the situation they are in. They'd much rather have this real competition between two quality QBs over what they've had since rejoining the league.

You seem to have little grasp of how bad things were in Cleveland. The team needed a QB last year. No one in the world though Anderson or Frye would get it done, and they had no reason to wait a year to draft a QB. They needed talent right away, and the team loves what they have in Quinn. I'm sure you and your Madden-playing friends think you know everything, but the Browns love Quinn and have done a lot to improve his mechanics.

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

Many people questioned this move when it was made. Most people that I know (who know a lot more about football than you do) thought that this move was a gamble at best. Now we know that the gamble failed.

How did the gamble fail? The Browns are in great shape. If Anderson falters, they are more than happy to roll Quinn out as the starter. If Anderson kicks ass, then the Browns can trade either guy next year for a nice return.

Based on how little you seem to understand about the Cleveland QB situation of the past few years, I question what you and your friends really know.

K2 4MVP22 · 03-30-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Troy McClure

Oh Christ, here we go. I love these couch potato scouting reports. You've never seen him play a down in the NFL, but you know all about him, right?

You might want to go check out what these guys are getting paid. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Quinn isn't on a big salary at all. As a backup, he's no impact on the cap at all since his deal is mostly based on incentives. Even combined, Quinn and Anderson are costing the Browns less of a cap hit than many teams pay for their starter.

Again, this is not true. Because of these two affordable deals, the Browns can sit and wait until this time next year to trade one. They have no need to make a decision any time soon.

Based on his sweet contract, I disgree with your evaluation of Quinn's return, but either way, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter what they get in return. The Browns love the situation they are in. They'd much rather have this real competition between two quality QBs over what they've had since rejoining the league.

You seem to have little grasp of how bad things were in Cleveland. The team needed a QB last year. No one in the world though Anderson or Frye would get it done, and they had no reason to wait a year to draft a QB. They needed talent right away, and the team loves what they have in Quinn. I'm sure you and your Madden-playing friends think you know everything, but the Browns love Quinn and have done a lot to improve his mechanics.

How did the gamble fail? The Browns are in great shape. If Anderson falters, they are more than happy to roll Quinn out as the starter. If Anderson kicks ass, then the Browns can trade either guy next year for a nice return.

Based on how little you seem to understand about the Cleveland QB situation of the past few years, I question what you and your friends really know.

I love it. That's all that needs to be said. Nice defensive post. Mad props.

Browns17 · 03-30-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Troy McClure

Oh Christ, here we go. I love these couch potato scouting reports. You've never seen him play a down in the NFL, but you know all about him, right?

You might want to go check out what these guys are getting paid. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Quinn isn't on a big salary at all. As a backup, he's no impact on the cap at all since his deal is mostly based on incentives. Even combined, Quinn and Anderson are costing the Browns less of a cap hit than many teams pay for their starter.

Again, this is not true. Because of these two affordable deals, the Browns can sit and wait until this time next year to trade one. They have no need to make a decision any time soon.

Based on his sweet contract, I disgree with your evaluation of Quinn's return, but either way, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter what they get in return. The Browns love the situation they are in. They'd much rather have this real competition between two quality QBs over what they've had since rejoining the league.

You seem to have little grasp of how bad things were in Cleveland. The team needed a QB last year. No one in the world though Anderson or Frye would get it done, and they had no reason to wait a year to draft a QB. They needed talent right away, and the team loves what they have in Quinn. I'm sure you and your Madden-playing friends think you know everything, but the Browns love Quinn and have done a lot to improve his mechanics.

How did the gamble fail? The Browns are in great shape. If Anderson falters, they are more than happy to roll Quinn out as the starter. If Anderson kicks ass, then the Browns can trade either guy next year for a nice return.

Based on how little you seem to understand about the Cleveland QB situation of the past few years, I question what you and your friends really know.

amen

And I'd like to add that what makes more sense for the Browns, not trade up to get Quinn last year and roll with DA and Frye because no one knew that DA would play like he did last year. and then gamble on one of them being the answer and if they didn't get the job done, use their 1st round pick this year on who? Matt Ryan? (sorry I'd and almost everyone else would rather have Quinn)

Or the Browns gamble on trading up for Quinn by using this years 1st rounder and if DA or Frye wouldn't have panned out than they can resort to Quinn, but if Da or Frye would've got the job done, as DA did, then the Browns have 2 quality QBs on their roster when some teams don't even have 1.

(obviously the logical choice is this one.)

K2 4MVP22 · 03-30-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

First, they did not get a quality QB. Next, they are now stuck with two QB's with big salaries. Now one is going to have to go, and soon. If it is the pretty boy from Nutered Dame, Cleveland may get a mid to low round draft pick for him. So Cleveland managed to give away a 1st round pick for a lower round pick. That really makes sense.

Many people questioned this move when it was made. Most people that I know (who know a lot more about football than you do) thought that this move was a gamble at best. Now we know that the gamble failed.

As for you, you really don't know much about the situation. I'd say Quinn is a hell of alot better than Frye. I mean who wouldn't say that. Are you just mad your Bears didn't make a jump for Anderson? I like the QB and RB situation your in. Maybe you should post about that instead of wasting a post to say everything you know about the Browns' QB situation (which you know nothing). Thank you for your time and effort but it could have been better.

03-30-2008, 12:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
BigdaddyQH The Desert Fox Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 650 vCash: 2000 NFL Team: Chicago Bears NCAA Team: USC Trojans	Look who is talking about the draft. Cleveland totally wasted a #1 last year taking the pretty boy from ND who will never start a game at Cleveland unless there is an injury. It also cost them their #1 for this year. Talk about a totally stupid and inept move. Cleveland should challenge in the AFC North, but that is the AFC North, where no team can come close to the likes of New England, Indy, or San Diego. __________________ Winning is the Only Accpetable Result

03-30-2008, 01:00 PM	#26 (permalink)
BigdaddyQH The Desert Fox Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 650 vCash: 2000 NFL Team: Chicago Bears NCAA Team: USC Trojans	First, they did not get a quality QB. Next, they are now stuck with two QB's with big salaries. Now one is going to have to go, and soon. If it is the pretty boy from Nutered Dame, Cleveland may get a mid to low round draft pick for him. So Cleveland managed to give away a 1st round pick for a lower round pick. That really makes sense. Many people questioned this move when it was made. Most people that I know (who know a lot more about football than you do) thought that this move was a gamble at best. Now we know that the gamble failed. __________________ Winning is the Only Accpetable Result

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ZackofSteel sfgnlaskdfjlaskdflaksfnal Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nebraska Age: 16 Posts: 11 vCash: 500 NFL Team: Pittsburgh Steelers NCAA Team: Iowa State Cyclones	Sorry, but the Steelers will be sweeping the Browns yet again, next year. Signing a bunch of guys doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win the division. The Steelers NEVER sign anyone big in FA. They build through the draft; always have. Steelers repeat in '08. Book it.