Originally Posted by Irish

Love to see that Bengals and Steelers fans will never get along haha Bengals are a better team this year than Pitt, flat out. The running is better, the passing is better...and Rey Maualuga......Pitt doesn't have a Rey Rey. I think the Bengals will sweep the Squeelers this year finally and win the division. Pittsburgh is struggling in ever game they play, and its odd.

Originally Posted by Raynestorm

You're kidding me with this, right?

Running is better? Who's isn't? Our running game isn't there this year.

Passing is better? Again, you're kidding, right? Ben is one of the top five QB's in the league right now and Carson is hovering around 20th.

We don't have Rey?

Who's Rey?

Oh...you mean the rookie from USC?

Right...why would we need him when we have Harrison? or Troy Polamalu? Or Woodley? or Timmons? Or Farrior? Or Ryan Clark?

In case you haven't noticed, and judging by your post you haven't, our defense is top ten and theirs is #20.

They wont sweep us, I promise you that. They're going to fall apart like they always do...they're the Bengals.

Raynestorm

Originally Posted by Irish

Love to see that Bengals and Steelers fans will never get along haha Bengals are a better team this year than Pitt, flat out. The running is better, the passing is better...and Rey Maualuga......Pitt doesn't have a Rey Rey. I think the Bengals will sweep the Squeelers this year finally and win the division. Pittsburgh is struggling in ever game they play, and its odd.

Originally Posted by Whodeyman

Actually the Bengals defense is much better this year compared to previous seasons. You got the Bengals who have a leathal rushing attack, and a good defense that can stop the run. Now the Steelers have an okay rushing attack and move the ball better through the air this year, but have a pretty good defense. Steeler's teams of old always had a good rushing attack something they don't have this year. I am not saying you are a terrible rushing team, but their run game might become the focal point of the offense when the weather starts getting worse like it always is in Pittsburgh late in the year. Offensively yeah the Steelers are pretty good, but I think they have regressed since early part of the season. Bengals offense on the other hand keeps improving every week.

Ben might have more yards than Carson, but Carson has thrown more tds. Think I would take points over yards any day. Did you happen to catch the Bengals game against the Bears? Palmer had a perfect QB rating and threw 5tds. Heven't seen Ben do that this year. Palmer throws lasers and Ben throws rainbows. Palmer is more gifted as a passer than Ben even if you believe more yards makes the better qb, which I don't agree. Then Matt Schaub is the best Qb in the NFL, and clearly that is not the case.

Bengals have a better rushing attack. Benson is tops in the NFL. Bengals have better receivers. Once again Hines has a lot of yards, but only two tds on the season, Chads got more tds with 5 this season, and the entire receiving group is better than the Steelers. Holmes is pretty much the only threat besides Hines, and he does well but he doesn't score tds. I know Holmes is on my fantasy team, and he kind of, lets say, not so good after the first game. Bengals also have Coles, Caldwell, and Henry. Steelers after Holmes really aren't that impressive.

Now to the oline. Once again I will have to go with Bengals here. Steelers are good, but they allow a lot of sacks. Bengals run the ball better, so I would say the Bengals offense overall is better.

The Steelers are better at the TE position. Your guy catches most of all the balls thrown to him. Cant say that for the Bengals, and the Bengals demoted Coats who is the starter and has hands of stone. Foschi has played well. and can catch the ball a lot better than Coats, but I am can't wait to see Coffman who doesn't even dress for the games play. He could take the Bengals offense to another level if he works on his blocking a little bit.

I think overall the Bengals are a better team, and will do better in the playoffs because they have a more balanced attack. So far this year the Bengals have played 29 quarters of football (7 full games plus one overtime quarter).

In the first through third quarters (21 quarters) the Bengals give up an average of 4.7 points per quarter and have allowed 11 tds.

In the fourth quarter and overtime (8 quarters) they give up an average of 3.6 points per quarter (23% fewer than the rest of the game) and have only allowed TWO tds.

We may not be ranked very high in yards allowed, but we are slamming the door at the end of games.


Hey Raynestorm were you the same person on the Bengals message board that got banned recently?

Originally Posted by Whodeyman

I hope you are right. I would like nothing more to sweap the Steelers in the regular season, and then beat them in the playoffs. It would be sweet revenge.

Originally Posted by Raynestorm

You don't measure yourself against the worst to see how good you are, you measure yourself against the best. When we beat them, that included Mini-soda.

We have Denver on a Monday night coming off the bye week, that will be a good test for us.

Raynestorm

Originally Posted by Whodeyman

Yeah what happened in the Chicago game with the Steelers? I like how the Bengals blow out a team the Steelers lost to, but get not respect. Pretty much every team the Bengals have played this year has been good, exception the Browns, but every other game has been against good quality opponents, including your Steelers who the Bengals beat. Steelers go and beat the Vikings who are overated, but okay you beat one good team. I am not too worried about the Vikings. Farve will show his age like he did last year with the Jets, and i think the Bengals can slow down Peterson. The Bengals are good against the run.

And your comment about the Bengasl fans are happier beating the Steelers than they are at winning the SB is a little off base. Right now during the season Steelers and Bengals are tied, and Bengals will own the tiebreaker even if the Steelers win the second game. So right now yeah I am more concerned about beating the Steelers because it is the regular season and we aren't the playoffs yet, but in the whole scheme of things I want the Bengals to win the SB more than beating the Steelers.

So if the Steelers are the best and the Bengals beat the best then what does that make the Bengals? Did you get banned from the Bengals offical message board? They were talking about you the other day. Pretty funny stuff.

Originally Posted by Whodeyman

Yeah what happened in the Chicago game with the Steelers? I like how the Bengals blow out a team the Steelers lost to, but get not respect. Pretty much every team the Bengals have played this year has been good, exception the Browns, but every other game has been against good quality opponents, including your Steelers who the Bengals beat. Steelers go and beat the Vikings who are overated, but okay you beat one good team. I am not too worried about the Vikings. Farve will show his age like he did last year with the Jets, and i think the Bengals can slow down Peterson. The Bengals are good against the run.

And your comment about the Bengasl fans are happier beating the Steelers than they are at winning the SB is a little off base. Right now during the season Steelers and Bengals are tied, and Bengals will own the tiebreaker even if the Steelers win the second game. So right now yeah I am more concerned about beating the Steelers because it is the regular season and we aren't the playoffs yet, but in the whole scheme of things I want the Bengals to win the SB more than beating the Steelers.

So if the Steelers are the best and the Bengals beat the best then what does that make the Bengals? Did you get banned from the Bengals offical message board? They were talking about you the other day. Pretty funny stuff.

Originally Posted by Raynestorm

Please show me where I said the Steelers were the best.

The best right now are the Colts and Saints.

As for the Bears...we collapsed at the end of that game. That loss was more on us than them. Your win was more on them than anything you did.

But by all means, get cocky before having to host the Ravens this week. They're coming off a very convincing win over Denver.

Who, by the way, beat you.

They dominated Denver and I saw the game, Denver didn't fall apart, Baltimore just kept them from moving the ball. That's the Ravens team you'll be playing this week.


Good luck.

You're good against the run but AP is a beast and we held him to 69 yards. We did a good job on Favre too, but it was our defense that sealed the deal. Can you count on your D to be just as good?

I believe you're in Mini-soda on that, too.

Right now, we're tied but odds are we wont be at the end of the year. I see you losing to the Ravens this week and us squeaking by the Broncos. That will give us the lead. We both have some weak games after that: KC, Oakland but you have a tough three game finish.

Chad Johnson is no problem for us, he never has been. Check his stats against us and see. But hey, enjoy him while you can - two more years - because after that he'll be leaving Cincy for greener pastures.

What seperates us from you - and what will carry us far into the playoffs with you watching at home - is our defense and our TE's. Our D makes plays, yours doesn't. Our TE's don't just block, they're actually people the D has to account for while yours aren't.

When we go three wide you have to account for them, plus you have to worry about Miller. He has this nasty habit of blocking, then going out for a pass. Tough to defend against.

And this time we got you in Pittsburgh. You won in Cincy...I got news for you...you're SUPPOSED to win at home. But Bengal fans celebrated as if they won the SB anyway.

Because a victory over us is as close as you're ever going to get to that.

Originally Posted by Jay

Easy now, let's not downplay Houston to diminish Cincy's accomplishments. This Houston team is far better than the version at the beginning of the season and could hang a 40 burger on any team in the league.

Carry on

Originally Posted by Jay

Easy now, let's not downplay Houston to diminish Cincy's accomplishments. This Houston team is far better than the version at the beginning of the season and could hang a 40 burger on any team in the league.

Carry on

Originally Posted by Whodeyman

I agree, you guys played the Bengals well, and no one should discount that potent offense in Houston. I heard Owen Daniels is done, how is that going to affect the offense for Houston for the rest of the season?

This is directed toward Raynestorm.

We've seen what happens to a defense when the biggest piece of the puzzle is removed. It all starts with Ngata, because he's a big presence that demands attention.

Take what happened in Tennessee after Haynesworth left. No longer forced to doubleteam him, teams have been able to distribute protection to the edge.

Or how about Jacksonville? After Marcus Stroud left, John Henderson wasn't nearly as scary (unless you want to keep your sight, that is). The Jacksonville defense has yet to recover from the decision to deal Stroud to the Bills. Meanwhile, defense isn't the problem in Buffalo. Crazy-legs Fitzpatrick could tell you that.

If Ngata doesn't play, we've got an opportunity for blockers to get to the second level on running plays to take out their linebackers, and they will be forced to commit additional pass rushers to compensate for Ngata's absence, providing our receivers with more opportunities in the middle of the field.

...Believe me, I won't be sorry to see him gone.

Originally Posted by Jay

OD is such an integral piece of this offense and his production will be sorely missed. Although it does make GM Rick Smith look like a genius when he drafted not 1 but 2 promising TE's this year. James Casey is a subdued version of OD who was also a QB at Rice while Anthony Hill is more of a blocker with decent hands but can create separation off the line.

The bad news is that Casey just got his knee scoped and won't be available until after the bye week so we'll see a lot more of backup TE Joel Dressen in the Indy game. Matt Schaub has been spreading the ball around judiciously and certain guys like Jacoby Jones, David Anderson and Andre Davis are going to have to step up in the interim.

It sucks for OD because this was a contract year and he was playing the best ball of his career (easily top 3 in the league) but now it's feasible that we could resign him at a discounted rate since he tore his ACL.